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Old 10-12-2007, 06:45 PM
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A REAL speech from a true patriot.

Watch and listen without bias, and be free from the grip of oppression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdD6op0l2jk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEEj...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyv9J...elated&search=


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Old 10-12-2007, 07:29 PM
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The scariest thing is that some people actually think Olbermann is telling the truth as opposed to what he is really doing which is inventing his own truth and spewing it to ears that are searching for a scapegoat for all things wrong with the world.

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Post some sources on where he is incorrect, and we can look over them. Otherwise, there is no reason to believe he is not right because he is saying what I and many other people have been thinking for a very long time.
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Oh, and despite what Olbermann says, there is no reason to forget that our President is a criminal and everything to have come from this administration is wrong, bad, and not in the interest of the majority of Americans, or for that matter, the world.
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does a true patriot drive japanese?
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does a true patriot drive japanese?
A true patriot is the embodiment of the American spirit, that which the nation was built, not that which builds other nations..
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A true patriot is the embodiment of the American spirit, that which the nation was built, not that which builds other nations..
I agree 100%. We should not be in the business of nation building (Iraq).
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Post some sources on where he is incorrect, and we can look over them.
I have a better idea, instead of wasting my time, why don't you look up his sources of "Facts" that he spews. I hear a "According to..." and "Which has already been established..." and "Everyone knows..." many times each minute with no information on his sources. Hard to research out what everyone already knows...

All these wackos (and I include O'Reily, Limbaugh, and others in this, this isn't just a liberal thing) should be required to provide a bibliography of each speech they make. I call them speeches because that's what they are. They are not editorials and especially not news...

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All these wackos (and I include O'Reily, Limbaugh, and others in this, this isn't just a liberal thing) should be required to provide a bibliography of each speech they make. I call them speeches because that's what they are. They are not editorials and especially not news...

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no wai! if you don't like Olbermann, you MUST be one of the sheep that follow Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Coulter.
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no wai! if you don't like Olbermann, you MUST be one of the sheep that follow Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Coulter.
I don't even know who Coulter is...


I guess I'm not much of a sheep...
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I have a better idea, instead of wasting my time, why don't you look up his sources of "Facts" that he spews. I hear a "According to..." and "Which has already been established..." and "Everyone knows..." many times each minute with no information on his sources. Hard to research out what everyone already knows...
I spent about an hour and a half doing this and made a huge post but had so many windows open accidentally hit the back button and lost it all.

His facts check out.

Here is a transcript of that first video:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1019-24.htm

I challenge anyone here to pick out any one verse and I will back it up. If you can't do it, take a seat.
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I spent about an hour and a half doing this and made a huge post but had so many windows open accidentally hit the back button and lost it all.

His facts check out.

Here is a transcript of that first video:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1019-24.htm

I challenge anyone here to pick out any one verse and I will back it up. If you can't do it, take a seat.
Easy:

We have a long and painful history of ignoring the prophecy attributed to Benjamin Franklin that “those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Historical examples, please that meet the definition of Liberty from that period. Here is how Liberty is defined by Thomas Jefferson:
Thomas Jefferson Defined it in the "Declaration of The Rights of Man and The Citizen" as: "Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law."

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The scariest thing is that some people actually think Olbermann is telling the truth as opposed to what he is really doing which is inventing his own truth and spewing it to ears that are searching for a scapegoat for all things wrong with the world.

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Wait? What? Olbermann wrong? Are you one of those who believes in Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter?

I have watched many of Olbermann's shows, comments, etc. He doesn't make stuff up and he's not rude to people he has on his show. I don't know where you're coming from on this. It's sad that he's so right on what he talks about.

Olbermann isn't representative of a party - he's representative of the average American.
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Olbermann is a failed ESPN sportcaster - he's not representative of the average American. his use of the nazi salute to poke fun at rival Bill O'Reilly only serves to trivialize the Holocaust, its victims, and survivors in his lame attempt at the funnAy.

fixed your post.
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So, Bill O'Reilly taking a big dump on the Malmedy Massacre is nullified by this?

It seems to me that the only person who is butchering history around here is Bill O'Reilly. Olbermann just picks up on these atrocities and brings them to light.
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So, Bill O'Reilly taking a big dump on the Malmedy Massacre is nullified by this?

It seems to me that the only person who is butchering history around here is Bill O'Reilly. Olbermann just picks up on these atrocities and brings them to light.
not only do i not listen to an ex-sportscaster, i don't listen to Bill O'Reilly, either.

so you think its cool and funny to throw around nazi salutes in the media?
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