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Old 02-02-2008, 06:36 PM
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This topic was covered once before. There's more to hub centric rings than getting the wheels to balance. Read here: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/show...entering+rings

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Old 02-02-2008, 08:38 PM
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This topic was covered once before. There more to hub centric rings than getting the wheels to balance. Read here: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/show...entering+rings
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:24 PM
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Obviously, Ricochet...

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I have 18's. Not sure wtf these people are talking about, rides just fine.
We can tell at a glance by looking at your pic that you obviously are a product of a smooth, non-vibrating ride!!!!!

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My perspective is that the lugs are there to provide the clamping force that secures the wheel to the hub. The hub is there to provide the structural support for the wheel. I don't thing you should depend on the lug studs to hold the weight of the car/take all the force of braking, accel, bumps, etc. You never know, maybe some goof overtightened them and stretched the studs beyond tolerance, but didn't break them. And then you hit a particularly hard bump, which overloads and breaks the studs, and there's a problem.

I will definitely be running hubcentric rings if required with my new wheels.

When I bought a set of steel wheels for the Taurus for it's winter tires I went to Ford to get a direct fit set, instead of aftermarket multi-fit ones that rarely match the hub.
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:34 PM
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Does anyone know?

I will definitely have the rings before I even try to find tires.
Does anyone know if 235/35/18 tires would be the right size for my 18 inch mureno wheels.
I would do that instead of the 245/45/16 on my svx wheels
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With the offset of the murano rims I almost rub in the rear. (I do rub w/ 2 passengers on big bumps or dips) I am not about to roll the lip or remove the fender liner for more room. Taking this into account I wouldn't want to try and put anything wider than the 225's on my car with these rims. Our stockers have 55mm offset and the murano's have 35 offset. big difference.
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is it 225/40/18?

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With the offset of the murano rims I almost rub in the rear. (I do rub w/ 2 passengers on big bumps or dips) I am not about to roll the lip or remove the fender liner for more room. Taking this into account I wouldn't want to try and put anything wider than the 225's on my car with these rims. Our stockers have 55mm offset and the murano's have 35 offset. big difference.
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I don't have them, but I can still answer your question: There's lots of people here with 18's, and the ride gets much more harsh than stock. You're loosing 1" of sidewall between the wheel and the road, which makes the tire much less able to absorb bumps. I drove a Mercedes AMG SLK a couple days ago, with 225/40/18 tires, and the ride was not too pleasant.
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As stated before I run 225/40/18 (w/ 35mm offset Murano rims). I would run some 245's on a 55mm offset if I had them.
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As stated before I run 225/40/18 (w/ 35mm offset Murano rims). I would run some 245's on a 55mm offset if I had them.
Good luck with it all.
I have a few safe miles left on my 16's but will go with the 18's next I suppose
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:48 AM
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I got these an ebay and they are beautiful
Haven't got them on yet, Have to clear it with MinnieMouse
Thanks for all the information people!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...205687048&rd=1


Hi Keith

The best of luck with your new rims when you get them shod.

I think the 18" Muranos are heavier per unit that stock 16s. This in itself will increase your unsprung weight per corner and tend to degrade your performance. Heavier wheels are slower to/take more energy to rotate, put more work on the dampers to control and so on.

Aside from the weight aspect I feel most people wear bigger wheels as a fashion article or for looks and cosmetic reasons. Nothing wrong with that in practice, I'm pretty vain myself about how my car looks. However the principal reason in rallying or touring car [saloon car] racing for growing the rims is to get bigger brakes in there to give more control.

So ideally when going up two inches with the rim, it would be good to grow the brakes also. If you watch Modified Cars shows much you will see the downside of what I mean. Young guys go radical and put on huge 20" rims on small tin box Hondas. They leave on the original caliper and disk, possibly painting the caliper yellow or red. This draws attention to the fact that there is a 1" or 2" gap between the caliper and the inside of the rim. It looks totally and absolutely naff, and I don't know how they can't see the absurdity of the look.

I have 17" myself, OEM rims fitted to the SVX in the German market. As of yet I have not tried them, but I will be fitting them to Jersey Girl when I have reverse fixed in the gearbox.

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I will definitely have the rings before I even try to find tires.
Does anyone know if 235/35/18 tires would be the right size for my 18 inch mureno wheels.
I would do that instead of the 245/45/16 on my svx wheels
Thanks
Keith

Standard size on the SVX rims would be 225/50/16. Maintaining the rolling radius while growing the rim part means going down 5% per inch. So:

225/50/16 ~ 225/45/17 ~225/40/18

Regards the two sizes you mention above, the 16 will have a rolling radius of 12.34" and the 18 slightly smaller at 12.24".

This in turn means your speedo will be even faster* at 817 revolutions per mile for the 16, vs 824 for the 18 combination.
* {Standard tyre size gives 811 revolutions per mile}
However, with the offset being wrong for the SVX standard setting of 55, you will probably get rubbing in the arches with this size.

Your probable best options are 225/40/18, or even 215/40/18. In fact, was it my car I would use the 215/40/18. Slightly narrower tyre will give you a stiffer sidewall and less wallow, also it will be a little lighter and this will help. Plus it will be less inclined to rub the arches. You would have a better driving experience.

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I've used 18" rims (Ace Manta's) for the past few summers. The look is great and I love the ride....hate it when I have to put the OME 16" one on for the winter. Here's a picture http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/laserx/23670.jpg
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Can you?
There's isn't much comparable between the two, no. But in terms of ride comfort, I notice the little things much more. My stock size tires soak up small lumps/ridges in the asphault much better than the AMG's 18's did. The large stuff is not comparable, my 15 year old suspension is so mushy that it's like riding on a cloud compared to the AMG. I do like my suspension for snow racing though. Compliance is a good thing there.

Between the two, I'd still take the SVX. The AMG is fast, precise, and makes some of the most wonderful sounds I've ever heard, but if you try to have fun it stops you, I can't get comfortable in the thing, I feel claustrophobic and cramped...
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In fact, was it my car I would use the 215/40/18. Slightly narrower tyre will give you a stiffer sidewall and less wallow, also it will be a little lighter and this will help. Plus it will be less inclined to rub the arches. You would have a better driving experience.

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