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Old 03-11-2009, 07:39 AM
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Re: HELP! 430 miles from home...

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It almost sounds like when a car jumps timing....I know you checked it, but........It couldn`t jump it at the crank could it....I just hope the one I just got never has your problem, I think I would just give it away....lol...
Good luck with it....
I thought that`s what it sounded like....
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:45 AM
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It almost sounds like when a car jumps timing....I know you checked it, but........It couldn`t jump it at the crank or cam could it....I just hope the one I just got never has your problem, I think I would just give it away....lol...
Good luck with it....
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:13 PM
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So glad to hear it's running! I've been thinking about the whole jumped timing thing and how we thought if it jumped at the cam you'd think only that half of the motor wouldn't run. But in retrospect, it's kinda obvious that if one cam were to skip, the belt would retension out the slack and effectively put both cams out by half a tooth. Something that wouldn't be totally noticeable from looking at the timing marks alone... You'd really have to count the teeth between both cams and the crank sprocket to be sure.

It's a shame no one thought of that before paying for the diag. But at least it's running!
Damn I know man.... if i just would have looked under that right timing cover first lol..... the funny part is the drivers side cam and crank pulley were timed perfectly so I just ASSUMED it was ok But the important thing is its back now. Thanks again everyone on this forum for the help with this thing, and a special thanks to you Scott who without your help and spare pulleys id still be stuck in reno Nicest guy ive met in reno in a long time man and I owe you a favor!

The trip from reno to orange county and then to victorville went great...the car somehow got nearly 30 mpg and the engine ran flawlessly..... i just have to take care of the rear bearing (wooooooooo) and wheel vibration. Small potatoes considering lol
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:55 AM
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Re: HELP! 430 miles from home...

I've noticed that taking a car from Reno down to CA usually results in great milage for two reasons. One, it's mostly downhill. And two, if the car has leaned out trying to adapt to the high altitude, once you get down to sea level you get great mileage until you push the car and it's forced to pull timing and add fuel.

We used to go over the hill to sacramento for dyno days and stock STis would put down 240hp at the wheels on a Mustang dyno (which is like 20hp higher than the locals). Of course you had to worry about pinging, and you'd only get 1 or 2 pulls in before the car would dial back a bit. But it sure did piss off the californians who thought they got crap cars!
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:12 AM
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Re: HELP! 430 miles from home...

Glad you make it back to the road now.

So it's the left turn + pot holes to cause this?
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:44 AM
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Glad you make it back to the road now.

So it's the left turn + pot holes to cause this?
Oh yeah!!! Sorry I forgot to mention the freak accident that made this happen......

The outer dust ring on my lower smooth idler on the pass side popped off when I hit the pothile, and was caught by the belt and ran between the belt and pass side cam gear, causing it to jump timing by about 10 teeth. Was a freak accident that it had popped off and had actually landed on the tooth side of the belt to be swept up and eaten, and then caused the jumped timing. I think I still have the dust ring ill post a pic in a little bit. Bad luck to be sure!
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:51 AM
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Oh yeah!!! Sorry I forgot to mention the freak accident that made this happen......

The outer dust ring on my lower smooth idler on the pass side popped off when I hit the pothile, and was caught by the belt and ran between the belt and pass side cam gear, causing it to jump timing by about 10 teeth. Was a freak accident that it had popped off and had actually landed on the tooth side of the belt to be swept up and eaten, and then caused the jumped timing. I think I still have the dust ring ill post a pic in a little bit. Bad luck to be sure!
That is just too weird!! Glad she's back running!!
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:48 PM
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Re: HELP! 430 miles from home...

What are the odds?

This form is like a big family! One person in throuble, people jump in to try to help and all the rest are pulling for success!

Great to hear what happened but a how-to on this occurrence for future "outer dust ring-timing belt" collisions... Probably not!

Glad you got home safe
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