So I raced a neon...

[Chicane]

There was one with a few mods running 13.2 or something.

Seriously though, 1st gen coupes are where its at. They have 2 doors, they weigh 2400 lbs, and they're lower and a LOT cheaper. I'll post a clip of a 2.4 liter neon in this thread a few days from now, its freaking sweet. Way better than an SRT-4.

- Rob

[NikFu S.]

Originally posted by Pure_Insanity8


I don't think anything (currently), except maybe nitrous, will allow a SVX to hold a SRT-4 at bay.

Were you're races from a stop and only up to 60 mph or something?

from a complete stop on a 1/3 mile strip of lightly traveled highway. me, an srt-4, and my civic hatchback friend.

consider ive been racing all night, just replaced my water pump, and my timing is off by 80 degrees.
i counted down from 3 by sounding the horn.
on 3 i took that fool off the line because he was spinning out his first two gears, too much power too little traction. then at about 60 i let off the throttle for a moment cuz i was worried about destroying my brakes and he whaled past me. we came to a parking lot and challenged him again, this time in 2wd, but he chickened out. "that thing is 4wd??, naw i gotta go...."

the way i see it if i had a 5spd and good timing he never would have past me, considering they take off faster than autos.

and needless to say the hatch was a dot in my rearview.
control is everything.

[Chicane]

Originally posted by NikFu S.
on 3 i took that fool off the line because he was spinning out his first two gears, too much power too little traction.

I smell BS. Sorry. I'd like to believe you, but I own an SVX, and I'm involved in the neon community. Who was the owner of the SRT4, and what color was it? Where do you live?

- Rob

[NikFu S.]

i dunno what is so hard to believe...
some guy here in anchorage. where else would i be? it was a red srt-4.
he said he was running 13lb boost , we all know neons are 2wd, light, and this was a 5 or 6 spd. he had NO traction whatsoever in the first two gears because he doesnt know how to baby his clutch. also he had a lot of backfire because he pushes it waaaay to hard.
im sure if you found him hed say he smoked me. thats the way things go.

and i own a 14 second svx. im goin to the track saturday! whoohoo!

oh yeah. 155mphman was co-pilot. ask him about it. i forgot i had some extra dead weight.....

[Chicane]

They don't make neons with 6spds....

Anyway, I'm going to look into this, because I think its a load of crap. Do you know him personally? I'm thinking its one of the following:

1. You're making this up
2. The guy cannot drive at all
3. It wasn't an SRT4, just one with a kit.

- Rob

[NikFu S.]

i dont really care what you think. my svx is fast and ive given you all the info you need to form an opinion.

i got out and looked at, into, and over the thing it was a brand spankin new red turbocharged 5 spd srt-4 with stock dual exhaust, spoiler, 16 or 17 in wheels and high ass.
what the hell is it that you dont believe?
you dont think my svx can take it off the line?
does traction mean anything to you???

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Hmm , I can say this about the SVX vs. The Neon , I was a passanger in Nicks SVX when he took out the SRT-4.
He had him far beyond 60 mph. Is it really that hard to believe ? No , It's not. Just all you guys who get wiped out by neons are jealous.

And further more , He raced in 4 wheel drive to , cuttin accel down a bit. And still won. We also had another friend in his honda civic DX hatchback , trying to keep up.

[NikFu S.]

i dont think i won but i definitely smashed him off the line......
dont quote me on winning...

Yeah but you also started slwoing down , In anycase , the SRT-4 really isn't **** to be proud of if you own one.

That guy was an idiot anyways. Pacing us for hella long to challenge way out there on Raspberry road n crap.

That has to be the ugliest car I've ever seen , I'd rather get a mustang LX over a SRT-4.

I started cracking up when he refused to race you in 2 wheel drive.

[Chicane]

Sorry, something about your claims here are full of ****. I would prefer not to call either of you liars, but my logical brain here says "220-230hp in lightweight car with TRACK PROVEN TIMES of 13s, vs 230hp 3625lb car with times of around 16.?" = this story is full of ****.

Next time get it on video.

- Rob

The car no longer weighs as much as it did out of the factory , I did all the modifications to it myself and , It has more than 230 HP.

[NikFu S.]

im glad you dont WANT to call me a liar, but,
your "logical" mind doesnt seem to be understanding the word "traction".
when a car loses "traction" it does not GRIP the road. when a car DOES NOT grip the road it does not move forward, at least not at a very quick rate.
on the other hand, AWD, which is what the SVX has, keeps traction loss to a MINIMUM. ill admit the road was ever so slighlty dusty, making traction harder to acheive, but nothing the svx cant handle. let me draw a picture for you.

------------------------------------------------------| svx at 60
============-----------------------------| srt
==--------------| hatch

as you can see the srt had a lot of distance to make up. HAD it been clutched in such a way to attain maximum traction, like so:
=-----------------=--------------------------=--------------------------| potential srt
1st--------------2nd-----------------------3rd

it would have stayed AHEAD of me. i hope this clears up your unwarrented skepticism.

[Chicane]

Was this a gravel road? If so, SURE! If it was pavement, I believe one of the three things above. Next time get it on video.

- Rob

[Pure_Insanity8]

I believe that you could have gotten a jump out in front of him... if he was a crappy driver and had no idea how to get a good launch. However, an SRT-4 would still destroy ANY SVX with a good driver... unless the SVX is quite modified which doesn't exactly exist yet (besides nitrous).

Ever race a WRX? I have a few times... even with it floored and breeching 125 mph, a WRX just WALKS by a SVX. A SRT-4 can hold its own (or beat) a WRX.

Dude, you probably don't want to race in FWD mode... you'd actually be slower, and it isn't good for the drivetrain. You're still pulling the extra weight of the AWD, but it isn't being powered so the rear wheels will be trying to turn and fighting an uncontrolled AWD system.

I'd like to see pics of what you have done to your SVX (weight shaving)... and other kinds of proof of what you have done. I gotta see a time slip before I can fully believe that your SVX can hit 14's, too. It would be awesome if it can... just that I've never heard of anyone getting even very low 15's... without nitrous. The 5 speeds are the only ones that I think could hit a high 14, and that would require a pretty hard launch I believe.

[NikFu S.]

Originally posted by Chicane
Was this a gravel road? If so, SURE! If it was pavement, I believe one of the three things above. Next time get it on video.

- Rob

notice i said 'highway' in an earlier post. we dont have gravel highways.

let me reiterate i dont admit to being faster than, or winning against an srt.

i once raced a wrx in my auto xt6. they are equal off the line. my xt6 smashes my svx off the line.

i once burned out all of first gear in 2wd mode, and found that i do run faster. this was against an SE-R, AND it was caught on tape. i also know its not good to do so i dont do it anymore.

as for pics just check my locker and my profile says everything ive done. if you want proof of something special ill provide that upon request. as for the time slip, i am supposed to be heading to the track on saturday to go head to head against 155mphguy's prelude, and hopefully the se-r again.

im not making any promises. sometimes my X runs like shiz. sometimes it pulls power out of its ass.

forgive me if i seem hostile but i cannot endure being labeled as anything other than truthful.