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Has anyone else seen the movie yet?
I've read the LOTR books (and everything else Tolkien has written) countless times. I am a full on geek in this regard (and oh, so many others). I was bouncing off the walls in anticipation, yet fully expected to be dissapointed... and was not. I thought the movie would conflict horribly with how I pictured the scenery and the characters in my mind... but it did not. I cannot wait to go numb my butt in front of movie screen for another 3 hours. I am curious about what others here may have thought of it. Nerdfully yours, Rufus
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Shades of Mordor!
I work evenings. I have family over. I hate this. I mean - I love my kids and my grandkids and stuff - but this is, after all, Lord of the Rings we're talkin' about! I probably won't get to see it until next week (!) Acccch! By then it'll be old news to everyone.
The books are sooo good that I was really afraid that the movie would spoil the effect. (The previous animated attempts did.) But from what I've seen, the director is like, part elf or something. Chuck Colson, who does a daily radio commentary, had a good take on it today. What the heck. Here it is. (I hope I'm not infringing on some copyright or something.) BreakPoint with Charles Colson Commentary #011220 - 12/20/2001 Defrocking Frodo and the Death of Imagination: God-Given Special Effects "Past the brooding lands of Mordor, across the river Nimrodel, far beyond the lush valley of Rivendell, the gentle followers of Frodo are freaking out." So says a story last week in the L.A. Times about how devoted fans of J.R.R. Tolkien are reacting to the onslaught of Hollywood hype and merchandising tie-ins that have preceded yesterday's release of the movie version of Tolkien's fantasy, THE LORD OF THE RINGS. Long-time Tolkien fans feel as if the film's marketing blitz will overwhelm the delicate fantasy of Middle-earth -- a world straight out of Tolkien's imagination and delivered complete with its own languages, sciences, and history in more than a dozen books that span fictitious millennia. One graduate student at UCLA laments the day Frodo will appear on some child's pajamas. "Have they no respect?" he asks. Now why are these people so upset? Ted Tschopp, co- founder of TolkienOnline.com, gives a hint when he says he hopes the movie will fail so he can go back to enjoying Tolkien's books as sacrosanct. The fear is that people, after watching a two-hour movie and purchasing the appropriate hobbit gear, will think they have something in common with Middle-earth aficionados who have read and re-read Tolkien's trilogy and know all its details. Well, the critics have a point. As good as a movie may be, there's still nothing like a good story told in a good book. In a story, we cooperate with the author by bringing our own imagination to play. The writer may supply a description, but we provide the mental images ourselves. The truth is that the human imagination engaged by literature is more powerful than all the special effects and technology employed by Hollywood. So there's always a problem when a book is made into a movie. No one, who has read and experienced a story, will ever be completely satisfied with someone else's re-telling. To narrow an author's creativity down to one visual image on a screen -- even worse, on someone's pajamas -- is to trivialize the wonders of one of God's greatest gifts to us, our imagination. A good example is the conclusion of the delightful movie, A PRINCESS BRIDE. There is a culminating kiss between the hero and his maiden. During the kiss, we hear the voice of the grandfather who has been reading this story to his grandson, and we see the power of imagination over the visual. On the screen we see only a kiss, and how many times have we seen a movie kiss? They're all the same. But from the narrator we hear: "In the history of true love, there have been five truly great kisses, but this one surpassed them all in its purity and its passion." The kiss on the screen pales in comparison to the one in our imaginations as we hear the words of the story. Now, this isn't to diminish the value of film as an art form or as entertainment -- and certainly not THE LORD OF THE RINGS, which I'm anxious to see. It is simply to remind us of the limitations of film in penetrating our imaginations. There's no substitute for the richness of our imaginations when stimulated by a great story. So, enjoy good films, but don't let them ever substitute for the greater and richer pleasures of good reading. It's a taste all of us need to cultivate. ================================ J.R.R. Tolkien, THE LORD OF THE RINGS (Houghton Mifflin, 1974). <http://www.parable.com/breakpoint/item.asp?sku=03951 93958> Steve P.S. Wishing you all glimmering Silmirils for Christmas.
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We're planning on going to see it this weekend (family night out), but I did see the "Behind the scenes: Making of Lord of the Rings." The construction of the scenery took three years. They actually went into the New Zealand countryside and built the city, planted plants and made sure that they had matured enough to make the scenery look "old."
The director is absolutely OBSESSIVE about staying true to Tolkien. He approached the project with something of a "religious reverence" and set out to create a tribute to the author. Apparently, he has done it. I will find out for sure this weekend.
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we will go see it.....
Christmas day i think. i have really been wanting to see it too.
also want to see oceans 11. it has gotten good reviews despite having way too many stars.
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Ocean's Eleven: Goooood Really, it's a lot of fun.
LOTR: Dunno, I haven't seen it. But realize that I work in probably the most geek-dense office you can conceive of. Really, everyone here is a Sci-fi or fantasy geek. We have to be - we're creating the stuff. :P So the overall impression here is that it's the greatest thing since Star Wars. We had a bunch of the staff go to a midnight showing on Friday morning. Then another bunch took a half-day pff on Wednesday to go at noon. I'm really looking forward to it. I've only recently been introduced to Tolkien, but I'm still really geek to see it...probably this weekend or early next week...
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you seem hard to please nick.....
so i trust your judgement of ocean 11. i am real picky too.
i am sorry but i am not taking half a day just to go watch a movie.
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Re: you seem hard to please nick.....
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Re: you seem hard to please nick.....
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The thing to remember is that he grades them *entirely* on how entertaining they are. Films can be fantastic, but if the audience he sees the thing with doesn't enjoy it, he grades it accordingly.
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Great Site!
Thanks Pockets. I bookmarked it and sent it to the brethren.
Steve
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LOTR:FOTR
FLAT OUT ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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