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I'm extremely disappointed in the forums and would like for them to return to their former level of decorum. | 39 | 75.00% | |
I'm willing to accept the forums, as they are today, in the names of progress and diversity. | 13 | 25.00% | |
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll |
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What about 'improving it's current state so it's better than either"??? - Rob |
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It is a little disingenuous of you to simplify the first option to "go back to the way it was" The operative phrase was "return to the former level of decorum" It would be quite possible to improve the site as you suggest, and yet retain the sense of manners and civility that marked the earlier forums. In fact, I would hold that it can't be improved without getting rid of the personal invective and petty rants that have lost us many friends. Even with certain reservations, three out of four respondents want the forums returned to the less antagonistic style, so when arguing the case you should take this statistic on board. Care to make any suggestions as to how forums could be made better, and how to curb or deter the sort of behaviour that 75% want to improve? Joe
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1. B.S. should not be tolerated. If someone claims they have an intake tube that makes 30hp, the topic gets locked and deleted. Now obviously some "BS" is an opinion, but as long as the opinion is respectful and not COMPLETELY out of the ballpark, it should be allowed to stay. 2. MORE MODERATION. Some topics have done more than 'beat a dead horse', they've beaten the horse until there was nothing left but chunks and a bunch of goo. Once a topic has done that, it's too late. We need more active moderation, but people who are impartial to WHO is misbehaving. Nobody should be 'picked on'. 3. NO BAITING. Playful baiting is alright, but the type of trolling that just causes fights should not be allowed, ie, deleted and the member(s) responsible should be warned. 4. BE TOLERANT. This goes for opinions, as well as whatever people bring up. Any other ideas? - Rob |
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Looks good to me, with a small proviso:
Number 4 clashes with number 1. If you don't "tolerate" BS, then that attitude is intolerant, which breaks rule 4. But I know what you mean. It is fairly easy to point out that someone is in error, without labelling them as bull**** artists. They could be misguided, have been given wrong info or misinterpreted correct info, they could be innocent or ignorant. But to throw a BS label their way is to bring the problem into the realm of the personal, a recipe for vitriolic disaster. I think a good way to improve this problem is for the site to declare that any opinions or help offered on the forums may or may not be correct, and site users take such advice at their own discretion and risk. If it's wrong, it's your problem. Also, if someone is coming on site and passing on obviously bad information, then moderators should respond to this by taking down such posts when alerted by a few of the members who are technically adept. The person with the bad advice can be notified that such advice is not appreciated via a PM from a moderator. What do you think? Joe
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Randy Johnson 3rd Registered Member 02-21-2001 First Member to Reach 10,000 Posts First to arrive at the very first Reading Meet Subaru Ambassador 1992 SVX PPG Pace Car Replica 110+k 1993 White Impreza L 240+K miles 2001 Legacy Outback Limited Sedan 250+K miles 2013 Deep Indigo Pearl Legacy 3.6R 49+K miles "Reading is my favorite Holiday" Mike Davis -- at Reading VI |
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I would agree with this. The interesting thing is that I have seen some posts that someone has posted, and someone else calls it BS simply because they don't agree with it. Don't expect it to be deleted if it is not over the edge. Not everyone will agree on what is and what is not. We will give it a try and hopefully get the site back to a more comfortable and enjoyable place to be.
If I have a problem with someone, I will PM them, and not do it publicly. I will expect the same from the members. If someone has problems with me, PM me. Do not drag it into the forums. If they are, they will be deleted. This is not going to be the place for arguments anymore. I have a simple guideline to follow - I got it from Aredub: Rule #1 The Moderator is always right! Rule #2 If the Moderator is wrong, see Rule #1! Just Kidding of course! I will be open to suggestions as time goes on. Please let me know if it seems to be going better, or worse. This is not only a very time consuming task, but one that can become very unpopular. I will do my very best to do a better job of moderating this site.
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Trevor, New Zealand. As a child, on cold mornings I gladly stood in cowpats to warm my bare feet, but I detest bull$hit! |
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Thanks again Trevor.
I think the votes have shown that this is what the majority of the members want. This tread is complete and we can move on now. Thank you to all that respondied to Aredub's poll.
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. Earl .... ... .... ><SVX(*> Subaru Ambassador [COLOR=”silver”]1992 Tri Color L[/COLOR] ~45K (06/91) #2430 1992 Dark Teal LS-L ~184K (05/91) #0739 1992 Claret LS-L ~196K (05/91) #0831 1992 Pearl LS-L ~103K (06/91) #1680 1992 Pearl LS-L ~151K (06/91) #2229 1992 Dark Teal LS ~150K (07/91) #3098 (parts car) 1992 White LS-L ~139K (08/92) #6913 1993 25th AE ~98K (02/93) #164 1993 25th AE ~58K (02/93) #176 1993 25th AE ~107K (02/93) #215 1993 25th AE ~162K (02/93) #223 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~124K (1/94) #2408 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~144K (10/93) #1484 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~68K (10/93) #1525 1994 Barcelona Red LSi ~46K (02/94) #2624 1994 Pearl LSi ~41K (12/93) #1961 1995 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~70K (02/95) #855 1996 Polo Green LSi ~95K (03/96) #872 1997 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~55K (08/96) #097 2003 Brilliant Red LS1 Convertible ~29K (04/03) #8951 1999 Magnetic Red LS1 Coupe ~33K (04/99) #6420 My Email | Old Locker | New Locker | Picture of 15 of the 19 |
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