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Old 02-05-2008, 07:21 PM
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If you do, I'm in, but as always, time is definitely not of the essence.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:00 PM
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I could make that from **** from home depot for less than 20.00...

It's easy to weld. It would have been much easier if they used super heated tubing and bent it then there wouldn't even be any welds or bend marks in the metal.

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So once again , a bunch of novices hacking up metal and welding it all together and you think they are some experts.
Any truth to this?

Or is this guy on some kind of trip?

Is there an easier way to make these?
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:15 PM
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Any truth to this?

Or is this guy on some kind of trip?

Is there an easier way to make these?
Not really unless you want to use conduit which will break at the angles these have to be made out of. believe me, if there was an easier most cost effective way to make them.... I would have done it already. these are not my favorite thing to make. BTW that just sounds like someone is bitter

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Old 02-05-2008, 08:29 PM
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That's what I thought.

One more thing then I won't bring this up anymore.

You have pride in the parts you make/design, Tom?

Just because you don't grind down the welds (and no one here expects you to) does that mean you don't make this with pride?
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That's what I thought.

One more thing then I won't bring this up anymore.

You have pride in the parts you make/design, Tom?

Just because you don't grind down the welds (and no one here expects you to) does that mean you don't make this with pride?
I do grind down the welds... I don't think I did on that one but the other two did. Not to mention I was mig welding those which will not happen anymore. i was out of straight argon so i could not use my tig welder (with any real success). BUT i am stocked on argon again and the rest will be fully tigged and very clean. I do take pride in everything I do. So if someone doesn't like it, they can make their own and make it that much better if they are that much better at life than I am

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I do grind down the welds... ...i am stocked on argon again and the rest will be fully tigged and very clean. I do take pride in everything I do.
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I do grind down the welds... I don't think I did on that one but the other two did. Not to mention I was mig welding those which will not happen anymore. i was out of straight argon so i could not use my tig welder (with any real success). BUT i am stocked on argon again and the rest will be fully tigged and very clean. I do take pride in everything I do. So if someone doesn't like it, they can make their own and make it that much better if they are that much better at life than I am

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Tom, do not grind off your welds. I have seen pictures of your headers. Good welds are a trade mark and are of artistic merit. Grinding for looks is for the hacks who want to do a cover up. What is more an engineer appreciates that grinding of metal which could otherwise increase strength, is pandering to BS artists and pufters.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:32 PM
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Tom, do not grind off your welds. I have seen pictures of your headers. Good welds are a trade mark and are of artistic merit. Grinding for looks is for the hacks who want to do a cover up. What is more an engineer appreciates that grinding of metal which could otherwise increase strength, is pandering to BS artists and pufters.
I grind my mig welds on tubing... not my tig welds

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Tom,
Would there be a way I could just get the pre-cut pieces from you at a discounted price. I prefer to tig my own stuff, and I am sure you could use the break in the time it takes to make these. I could, but do not want to take the time to find the bends and lengths needed to make these when you have already figured it all out. I prefer to weld stainless so if you can send me those pieces i could potentially send them back to you unscathed for you to sell to someone else. Just an idea... or request.

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Old 02-05-2008, 11:18 PM
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Would there be a way I could just get the pre-cut pieces from you at a discounted price. I prefer to tig my own stuff, and I am sure you could use the break in the time it takes to make these. I could, but do not want to take the time to find the bends and lengths needed to make these when you have already figured it all out. I prefer to weld stainless so if you can send me those pieces i could potentially send them back to you unscathed for you to sell to someone else. Just an idea... or request.

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Huh?? These pieces are made to order. no cut is made without another. Saying that means that no two intakes are exactly alike and there are no pre-cut pieces. They get cut for what is needed. So no, I cannot do that. Welding is not the expensive part anyway, its the materials used

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Old 02-05-2008, 11:26 PM
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So are you saying that every SVX is made different? No chassis and motor are the same? All the dimensions change from one car to the next?
If that is true then I understand you.

On the other hand it would be un-wise of you to go through the entire process every time with every car.

If you make one that fits then use that to pattern the others after. If you try and use a dyno to prove that your design is better, but your design changes every time how are you going to prove anything? (I know you didn't dyno your car btw)

Not trying to be a pain here just trying to see where you are coming form. I must be missing something.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:36 PM
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I am saying that it is near impossible to get the perfect cut on the donuts I use. So I make them one cut a at time. They all result in the same basic design but until I have a bandsaw that can cut them I am reduced to more crude measures of an oscillating saw, or my tubing cutter (which has seen better days). So, I cannot produce the bends which you desire. I can make one out of SS if you would rather, but they come with a heavier price tag

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My last post was more of a question for you to ask yourself. As you know you need to make things as quick and painless as possible to make things profitable. I (as most people) am just looking for the quick and easy. For me that means someone else just cuts it up to fit and I just weld it all up. If you were closer I would try and hook you up with the precise cutting of the metal to make your life easier. I am now doing like you every day with these things. I get crazy stuff like boats, blocks, headers, tranny's etc, to weld up and machine back to spec. Nothing is ideal. Nothing is standard. It is just what it is.
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you know its burning me up a little too. Is it ok to ask someone in the business of building custom parts to hand over their designs and say, yeah I have no problem with this... Its not just you, but others as well... I just don't get it, is that supposed to be acceptable??

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