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Old 06-04-2008, 02:09 PM
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Turbo kit, who would be SERIOUSLY interested??

I have full intentions of building a turbo system for my Silver... I have been toying with the idea of offering a full kit w/ standalone engine management as well... There would be two versions.

1st would be a mild kit for a stock engine... Basic maps that allow the car to be driven but the car would need its own individual tune. More than likely using a Gt35r with a large front mount. Possible cost would be as low as $7k.

2nd would be a more aggressive kit for a built engine. Once again basic maps to keep you from blowing it up, but still needs to be tuned. Using a Gt4088R and a larger front mount intercooler. Possible cost would be as low as $8500.

Hot side piping would be made of stainless. For the stock motor pipes that join from the stock manifolds would be used.Built systems would have 1.5" Headers collecting just before the turbo.

Cold side piping will be 2.5" aluminum on the stock kits... 3" on the built kits.

These are rough plans as of now. I need to get my standalone first dialed in for the motor N/A then the turbo build will come shortly after... More or less I would like to know who has the resources and the intention of actually buying this? Otherwise I can simply make a one-off for myself and call it a day.

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Old 06-04-2008, 02:21 PM
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I'm interested in this.

What are we looking at needing to have mod wise? I am assuming since you are going to be using a standalone management that a MT is going be to a must. Does the standalone support emission compliant components or will the car have to be modified to eliminate these components in order to allow the standalone to function properly.

Also out of curiosity, what kind of gains are we looking at HP/TQ wise, as well as, how many pounds of boost can a stock motor hold. How many pounds of boost can a motor built with the ECUTune components hold and how would using those in addition to the turbo effect the HP/TQ numbers and how many pounds of boost can be ran. If the gains with the ECUTune components as well as the turbo kit are a large jump over just the kit alone, what other parts would need to be upgraded? Drivetrain?

Sorry to bombard you with a million questions (some of them probably not very relevant) but I'm just a curious little monkey.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:32 PM
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I'm interested in this.

What are we looking at needing to have mod wise? I am assuming since you are going to be using a standalone management that a MT is going be to a must. Does the standalone support emission compliant components or will the car have to be modified to eliminate these components in order to allow the standalone to function properly.
The kits would eliminate the EGR system, IRIS system, and purge control system. I am looking further into what it is going to take to keep the Auto but I have no definitive answer as of now.


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Also out of curiosity, what kind of gains are we looking at HP/TQ wise, as well as, how many pounds of boost can a stock motor hold. How many pounds of boost can a motor built with the ECUTune components hold and how would using those in addition to the turbo effect the HP/TQ numbers and how many pounds of boost can be ran. If the gains with the ECUTune components as well as the turbo kit are a large jump over just the kit alone, what other parts would need to be upgraded? Drivetrain?
Gains would more than likely be in the 50-60% range on a stock motor. This is mostly due to the fact that you are fighting a 10:1 compression ratio and they are going to be built to run pump gas. More than likely limited to 9-10 psi. I cannot tell you what the ECUtune engine will do. I personally am using the bottom end that I had from him and building my own heads using different valves, springs, retainers, and converting to bucket&shim for the lifters. This way I can choose my own cam profiles and not have to deal with hydraulic lifters. With the lower compression your gains can be much more substantial and fully expect over 100% gains.

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Sorry to bombard you with a million questions (some of them probably not very relevant) but I'm just a curious little monkey.
I posted this to answer questions and yield interest in it. I may also need someone interested with an auto to lend me their car for an unknown period of time... but that is merely for trying to keep the auto with the new EM.

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Old 06-04-2008, 02:40 PM
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I posted this to answer questions and yield interest in it. I may also need someone interested with an auto to lend me their car for an unknown period of time... but that is merely for trying to keep the auto with the new EM.

Tom
Ahem! So.....the first initial kit would be free for the person lending you an SVX for an 'unknown' amount of time?
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:55 PM
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Ahem! So.....the first initial kit would be free for the person lending you an SVX for an 'unknown' amount of time?
**** if that's the case I'm on my way.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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Definately interested. How soon do you plan on offering these kits? In reference to the standalone, the feeling I got was that you would set it up but we would still have to get it properly/finely tuned by another party, is that correct?
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:03 AM
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No single tune works well across applications. So the ECU would be programmed with basic maps. This would require it to be brought to a specialist to be Dyno tuned and street tuned. This is the BEST way to get all of what you paid and worked for. In short, yes.

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Old 06-05-2008, 02:09 PM
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Straight up wrenching, or will there be notable modification to the car to get it to fit (cutting, welding, wateva)?
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:13 PM
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For the most part it should be bolt in... Thats the whole idea of it. The one thing I know for sure that will need to be cut is the bumper support in the front... This is going to be in the way of the intercooler. Also something that should definitely be noted is that more than likely the user would have to lose the air conditioning for the same space constraint issue

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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Hi Tom ,
I have a Ecu Tune auto tranny With 3.90 dif . I already trashed the AC.
Wasnt working anymore and i'm in a weight reduction phase right now . I will ask LAN to build me an engine with 9.3 Comp. With cams , pistons , rods , ect. After that ( in a year ) I'm buying your Kit but cannot lend my car as its my daily driver and i'm too far ( Québec ) ... But i'll buy it !
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:15 AM
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Hell if your gunna give a free kit to the test, I would drive it down there myself. I am having fuel issues right now but by next weekend that will all be fixed.

But I would have to cage match all the other ppl willing to lose there car for a while. LOL
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:30 AM
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I dont think the test fit kit would be free, especially because the big thing we're working against is making the new em work with an auto...the piping and fitting of the turbo can easilly be taken care of on one of our cars.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:33 PM
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This is definetly a sawzall deal. I ended up cutting three holes in the engine bay and a lot of work on the bumper support
One for the intake to the fender(enlarging the stock hole to the )

One for the intercooler outlet from the turbo
One on the driver side

The bumper support.

Forget a cut-off wheel. The Bumper support is near impossible to cut with a torch due to a multi-layer steel design. I ended up using an entire bottle of 02.
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This is definetly a sawzallI ended up cutting three holes in the engine bay.
One for the intake to the fender(enlarging the stock hole to the )
One for the intercooler outlet from the turbo
One on the driver side

The bumper support. Forget a cut-off wheel. The Bumper support is near impossible to cut with a torch due to a multi-layer steel design. I ended up using an entire bottle of 02.

You are right, I noticed that when you did yours, but I would really try and focus on trying not to cut too much even if it makes it harder. I am also thinking of locating the turbo somewhere else too but this will all come with time and investigation

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Old 06-08-2008, 08:00 PM
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Phast SVX,

Did you ever get 1/4 mile numbers for your setup? Sorry if I missed it. I have been out of the loop off and on.
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