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Old 11-08-2004, 11:56 AM
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No more petrol to buy, could this be too good to be true?

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Old 11-08-2004, 12:55 PM
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But with bottled water costing more than gasoline there would no point///???


But since I'm sure you could use tap water it is a fabulous idea!
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Scam or otherwise, it's ridiculous. It'd be one thing if they claimed to be developing a hydrogen-fueled car. But the idea of pouring water into your tank and running on that is a little far-fetched and they come really close to claiming perpetual motion.

If the car also contains solar cells, fine. Then you could pour ten gallons of water in, wait for a few days while the car splits the hydrogen and oxygen and then maybe drive ten miles. But besides the water you're going to have to put energy into the system somehow. If that's the case you might as well just use that energy to propel the car instead of going through a couple conversions which lose some of the energy you're putting in.

Their timeframe also gives them away. It's more than unrealistic.
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Old 11-08-2004, 03:36 PM
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Scam or otherwise, it's ridiculous. It'd be one thing if they claimed to be developing a hydrogen-fueled car. But the idea of pouring water into your tank and running on that is a little far-fetched and they come really close to claiming perpetual motion.

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It is a perpetual motion claim (unless they externally account for the power used in locomotion and thermodynamic losses)...Still, if they succeed in generating a million pounds...I'm in like Flint.
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Seems to be more on this the further I dig

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/garrett.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~anon99/wa...ne/index2.html

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/...ar/h20car2.htm

http://www.mnsi.net/~joso/info.html
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If I would be a young man again and had to decide how to make my living, I
would not try to become a scientist or scholar or teacher. I would rather
choose to be a plumber or a peddler in the hope to find that modest degree
of independence still available under present circumstances.
-- Albert Einstein, The Reporter, November 18 1954

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