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Old 11-02-2004, 03:05 PM
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Hooray for guardrails

So the first day of snow came on teh 31st, along with many many accidents.
My SVX is still in the body shop and will be until at least Friday.
They found $1000 worth of more damage, which insurance will pay for. The value of the car has already been exceeded.

I've been driving my mom's Grand Cherokee around so I can get to and fro', and she borrowed Danny's Ford pickup.
She didn't ask, but what the heck they are friends, used to be married had a daughter, they are pretty cool.
So my ma is movin out of town. This means she as to drive 45 miles of highway to get back into down.
Yesterday, she comes into my store, "I need the Jeep".
She looks pretty shook.
"Ok, where's the truck?"
"Crumpled on a guardrail on an overpass."

Apparently she hit a patch of ice at about 65 and tried to pop it in 4wd, but that just made it spin out.
Crazy.
She called Danny, he was pissed, moreso about her taking the truck than crashing it 0_o
She has her boy looking for another one, and Danny called up his insurance, but blurted out that he didn't let her use it, so they can't give him anything now unless he reports it as stolen.
Right now he is debating whether to do that.
If he does, he get's money. Ma will likely get arrested.
Oh how fun.
At least she's alive right?

And what do we learn?
If you got 4wd, use it.
I did 80 during a blizzard at 3am on that same highway last year in the SVX with my crappy all-seasons.
A rwd pickup with an empty bed is one of the worst things one could be driving in icy conditions.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:26 PM
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aren't most 4wd systems designed not to exceed 60ish mph in hi?.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:31 PM
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Re: Hooray for guardrails

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A rwd pickup with an empty bed is one of the worst things one could be driving in icy conditions.
A friend of mine who has a 4wd Ford dualie pickup said that thing handles like crap in the snow even with M+S tires. They weigh so much, that if a slide ever occurs, momentum is going to take you clean off the road!

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Old 11-02-2004, 03:45 PM
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aren't most 4wd systems designed not to exceed 60ish mph in hi?.
65 is the speed limit and everyone was moving at that pace.
Doesn't mean you aren't correct though.
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Old 11-02-2004, 04:18 PM
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she walked...car did a good job protecting her. was the truck worth collecting losses? i mean is it old...and would only be worth a grand or so? you didn't say the age of the pickup. it might be worth her just paying for it

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Old 11-02-2004, 07:28 PM
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65 is the speed limit and everyone was moving at that pace.
Doesn't mean you aren't correct though.
that's not what I asked.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:31 PM
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In most 4wd systems, the transfer case is not computer monitored. Therefore, the ECM has no idea whether it's in 4wd, 2wd, hamster wheel drive, or anything for that matter.

The new electronic systems could be different, I know for a fact that GM's servo-driven system does not have a speed limit (personal experience). I can't speak for other brands though.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:44 AM
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aren't most 4wd systems designed not to exceed 60ish mph in hi?.
In HI the trans gearbox is normal just pushing power to the front wheels. In low then the gearing is differnt and many cannot go above 60ish due to the redline and being in top gear.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:53 PM
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The manual for my Pathfinder states top speed in 4WD is 50mph in Hi and 30mph in Low.
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As I recall, the recommended hi-range speed limit with the old Subaru "On Demand" 4WD was 70.

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Old 11-03-2004, 03:48 PM
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I wouldn't recommend going more than 30mph in ANY vehicle with a locked center differential.
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I wouldn't recommend going more than 30mph in ANY vehicle with a locked center differential.
I might not be quite so conservative, but for the most part I agree with you. Whether or not the truck was in 4WD, she was going to fast and that ice was going to send her out of control anyway.

Throwing it into 4WD at 65mph was a bad idea, though. Not because of the damage she might do to the truck (depends on the system), but because of the way it could unsettle it at speed.

Was this a pushbutton 4WD setup, or is the transfer case engaged with a lever?
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:21 PM
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OK I thought you meant "How fast you CAN go in 4WD" not "How fast you SHOULD go in 4WD". Sorry my reply was a bit off.
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Old 11-04-2004, 12:53 AM
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a pushbutton 4WD setup
Looked exactly like this only white with blue trim and with a canopy.

This is a 97 F250 crew cab or super cab or whatever its called.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:09 AM
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Some cars aren't even 4WD at ANY speed, despite their claims

Check this out (I remember some1 sometime asked 4 this mov)

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This is in Swedish, but seeing is believing ...



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