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You continue to direct towards me, senseless nasty sarcasm. However you should be pleased that in particular, "I do think about it", i.e. your situation, and therefore remain tolerant. As usual you are again simply misguided due to the subject being beyond your intellectual capacity. What is more, again you understandably are unable to properly convey a logical issue. My object in posting was to --- "just try to help out" --- by endeavouring to prevent, "laserx" from embarking on a wild goose chase. On the basis of what you advise regarding your own problem, you have an intermittent fault applicable to the code being registered. I note that you believe that there is nothing wrong with this situation. Trevor
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A month ago I got CE light on, had it checked and it came up knock sensor and 02 sensor 3 I believe (it's the 02 sensor on the exhaust pipe after the engine), both were replaced at the Subaru Dealer. It is reasonable to assume that the mechanic correctly read and understood the code or codes recorded, and that in fact there was indication of an actual sensor fault, rather sensor readings correctly transmitted but outside of normal tolerances. The fault code facility is designed to record faults within components, and a sensor recording a sensed faulty condition is performing as intended and in itself is not faulty.
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By way of trying to be of help (N.B. Keith.) in view of the page change, I am hereby making sure that your important advice does not become buried among the preceding superfluous stuff.
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Trevor, here is how I see the original statement and why I must still disagree with you.
A month ago I got CE light on, had it checked and it came up knock sensor and 02 sensor 3 I believe (it's the 02 sensor on the exhaust pipe after the engine), both were replaced at the Subaru Dealer. The "I believe" is a him adding in a bit of uncertainty because he is referencing either something he was told, or what he believes based on perhaps limited knowledge. His description of the location of the sensor kind of helps support that. While it wasn't something worth correcting because it isn't entirely wrong but not entirely correct either. then i posted all of the OBDII codes for a 96 and newer subaru, that were O2 related. There isn't anything that says "sensor is bad". For all we know both codes could have been caused by his knock sensor. He could have been running lean causing a knock and not have had to replace either sensor, because his catalytic efficiency readings wouldn't be accurate. If he had his exhaust recently done then it could have a leak, he could have a vacuum leak because they may have pulled his intake to do the knock sensor. I still disagree with taking a car to a shop with a CE lit they reset it and send you on your way. I think that is wrong. You can get that done free at most autoparts shops. Hopefully they didn't charge him for that. I think everyone intends to help but with an intermittent problem it is a wild goose chase in some respects. If you look at all the potential causes for the P1151 which I was using as an example because it was the a rear sensor fault code. But I think so far everyone who suggested something could be found in the list of possibles. I am not disagreeing with you to pick on you or because I want to be an ass. I don't, however you give the impression that your way is the only way. A description given of what another tech is doing with their car is usually going to have some kind of details missing. |
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You hold the advantage of addressing me in person, from a position of obscurity. You acknowledge, --- “I think everyone intends to help but with an intermittent problem it is a wild goose chase in some respects.” It is my opinion that the goose described is far too wild and chasing it ahead of a more logical approach is not good advice for laserx to follow, particularly as he is paying for the work involved. N.B. e.g. the now concealed post #15, inserted by Tom. It is unfortunate that in your view, putting forward an opinion backed with evidence, gives the impression that my intent is indicate that my way is the only way, when the real object is to emphasise what is best in the interests of the person requiring assistance.
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Keep in mind that you are not unique, Trevor. Nobody on earth knows everything and it is futile to try to convince people that you do. Keith |
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Straight honest thinking, would have disclosed that I have not promoted my view, but have stated what is a matter of fact. You will also become aware regarding gospel and fact. It is a fact that a registered fault code specifically covering an individual sensor, is confined to a fault within that component or associated circuitry. The code does not indicate that the sensor is signalling a fault condition which it is correctly detecting. This is a matter which requires no specific expertise, no unique understanding, involves only common sense and does not amount to a personal opinion.
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Why keep pushing as fact something you don't understand. Keith |
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I apologize to Laserx for turning this thread into a back and forth verbal spat. Hopefully we will hear something about how it is fixed and running great with no CE, for little to no new cost. |
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A code for the rear sensor can indicate only that the sensor or associated circuit is faulty. No other systems operating incorrectly can cause the code. The code is specifically confined to registering a component fault and not an abnormal condition which is sensed by the component.
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It is you who is claiming that there is, or could be a code for the rear sensor. In any event, this has no relevance. What I have stated regarding the diagnostic system applies regardless. Bite off something able to be chewed sowise, otherwise, rattle your dags.
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You just never can "Zip it" Keith |
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I have had a gut full of your abuse and sarcasm. In order to confirm your current nastiness, you must prove where I have made an "erroneous" statement. Otherwise, as is your habit, you excrete only hot and foul air. Trevor.
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