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Old 07-05-2010, 11:27 AM
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Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

For a while now I’ve had problems with my power steering cutting in and out at low speed when the car is cold. When it was happening I could hear the serpentine belt chirping too. I’ve changed the “o” ring at the power steering pump and adjusted and readjusted the tension on the serpentine belt. I was beginning to think I’d have to change out the idler pulley or maybe the pump itself. I knew it wasn’t the alternator pulley because I’d had to change the alternator when I was having this problem and that didn’t help either.

While I was trying to figure this out a neighbour dropped by for a beer. He suggested I spray the pulley with tire cleaner with the car running. I thought he was nuts – that that would only reduce friction and compound the problem. But it worked! The problem was gone 30 seconds after I sprayed the pulley with a couple of shots of Wet’n’Black tire cleaner. Go figure. I just hope the fix lasts.
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:31 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

It's an old belt and that stuff softened the rubber?

When was the belt changed last?
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:44 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

The belt is only two years old with less than 15,000 miles on it.
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:55 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

Ooops - wrong car. It was my son's SVX that I changed the serpentine belt a couple of years ago - not mine. My mistake.

The belt in my car came with the car when I bought it in 2004 so it could be quite old. It looks in good shape though.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

Belts can look good but still have rubber that's completely dried out. My friend's Buick was chirping constantly, new supercharger belt solved the problem.
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Old 07-05-2010, 03:32 PM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

You should have just drank your friends beer and you wouldn't have cared. Oh, you got it fixed now.

I have had belts screech and make all kinds of noise and they looked fine. When I finally gave up and replace them, the noise went away. The tire stuff may have just waxed the metal so it wouldn't make noise any more.
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

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You should have just drank your friends beer and you wouldn't have cared. Oh, you got it fixed now.

I have had belts screech and make all kinds of noise and they looked fine. When I finally gave up and replace them, the noise went away. The tire stuff may have just waxed the metal so it wouldn't make noise any more.
The belt was probably coated with some form of hard shiny deposit, which was reducing normal friction and causing it to slip, in spite of the tension being normal. Tyre cleaners are aggressive dirt removers but do not damage rubber. Obviously the friend had experience with this working before.

This could be tip worthy of the how to section.
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Old 07-05-2010, 04:15 PM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

I will figure out how I can post it there so members will get the benifit of this fix.
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Old 07-05-2010, 04:57 PM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

Beautiful addition to our how-to...

I frequently ask my wife, is the whole world crazy or is it just me... I would simply pay a few bucks and get a new belt that I could depend on, but I am a coward... afraid I might get out on the road and have the belt break and loss of steering control could even cause someone to be killed...

My wife usually says "it is just you"

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Old 07-05-2010, 09:34 PM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

Of course there is a spray product called "belt dressing" that does the same thing.

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Again...
Belt dressing is not intended for use on planet earth!

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Old 07-06-2010, 12:10 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

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Of course there is a spray product called "belt dressing" that does the same thing.

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If belt dressing is the same stuff, then I probably shouldn't have used it. I d "belt dressing" and found many complaints about it. For example:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/forum/...?topic=60345.0

I'll drive it for a while as is and report back.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:17 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

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Beautiful addition to our how-to...

I frequently ask my wife, is the whole world crazy or is it just me... I would simply pay a few bucks and get a new belt that I could depend on, but I am a coward... afraid I might get out on the road and have the belt break and loss of steering control could even cause someone to be killed...

My wife usually says "it is just you"

Keith
Your wife will tell you while saying "it is just you", that a near new belt can become contaminated and slip. Also that it can be expected that members viewing the how to section, will have as many brains as your she has and will not expect a squirt of cleaner to extend the life of an old worn belt.

She will also tell you that a broken belt is not going to cause a catastrophe and she could cope. When the car is on the move, loss of power assist is nothing like that experienced when near stationery and parking.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:18 AM
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

Ill have to try this out. Have a similar problem. Belt squeeks for a few minutes on startup then exibites op's problem. New belt made no difference for me.
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Power Steering fix - Why did this work?

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Beautiful addition to our how-to...

I frequently ask my wife, is the whole world crazy or is it just me... I would simply pay a few bucks and get a new belt that I could depend on, but I am a coward... afraid I might get out on the road and have the belt break and loss of steering control could even cause someone to be killed...

My wife usually says "it is just you"

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Belt conditioner is not for planet earth

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Again...
Belt dressing is not intended for use on planet earth!

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You never cease to puzzle me Keith..... what event transpired doth thou become so fiercely a vocal opponent of belt conditioner ?
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