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Old 09-09-2010, 08:02 AM
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Re: 4.44 gears

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That would be a 4.11... Known not to hold up for very long... Just ask 92LSL I believe who just swapped one a few months back and is about to lose his high clutch completely...
Or ask SVX FF who had installed 5 411's including two rebuilts, all to fail.
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Re: 4.44 gears

Thanks for the clarification.
I've searched, and dug. Are there specific Tranny stickers, and Vins that I should be looking for?

I talked with a salvage guy yesterday, and he was having a time just finding a ref to the car I should be looking for to get 4.44

I told him 4.44, but maybe he was lost, I dunno
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Re: 4.44 gears

96-early 98 outbacks, legacy GT's, and a couple other models with a 2.5...
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Re: 4.44 gears

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Or ask SVX FF who had installed 5 411's including two rebuilts, all to fail.
I knew there were many others who had issues...

The problem is that the 4.11's actually have one or more less clutch discs per set compared to the SVX while the 4.44's have the same amount. This is why the 4.11's just don't hold up from everything I've learned and heard...
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96-early 98 outbacks, legacy GT's, and a couple other models with a 2.5...
Thanks. I'll focus on the 2.5 aspect while looking for Legacy. Too bad both of the 98 Outbacks already got gutted for drivetrains.
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Thanks. I'll focus on the 2.5 aspect while looking for Legacy. Too bad both of the 98 Outbacks already got gutted for drivetrains.
On any trans that you look at, make sure it does not have the spin on trans filter or it will not be compatable.
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On any trans that you look at, make sure it does not have the spin on trans filter or it will not be compatable.
Thanks. I did catch that one.
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96-early 98 Legacy Outbacks, Legacy GT's, and a couple other models with a 2.5, like an Impreza 2.5 GT, Foresters...
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Re: 4.44 gears

I'm going with 4.11 in mine simply because I have 4 or 5 of them laying around my shop. I've seen more 3.9 and 3.54 4EATs fail than the 4.11's. I think it comes down to where the car is driven.

I live in Alaska, so we have horribly cold weather in the winter and most subaru owners up here own them because of the 4 wheel drive and the need for it to get up their driveways. I believe the 3.9 and 3.54s failed more often up here because they are more of a highway gearing vs the 4.11 and 4.44. 4.44 has the tightest gearing so the trans has to actually work less than a 3.54 ratio trans on the same grade of hill as an example. Not to mention the engine working harder also.

Keep in mind, thats just what I've seen being one of the few Subaru mechanics in the town I live in. I have a early 98 Forrester trans on the floor in the shop, wondering if I should swap that out with one of the 4.11's I have so when my trans I just installed fails, I have the 4.44 to go in it. LOL
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I'm going with 4.11 in mine simply because I have 4 or 5 of them laying around my shop. I've seen more 3.9 and 3.54 4EATs fail than the 4.11's. I think it comes down to where the car is driven.

I live in Alaska, so we have horribly cold weather in the winter and most subaru owners up here own them because of the 4 wheel drive and the need for it to get up their driveways. I believe the 3.9 and 3.54s failed more often up here because they are more of a highway gearing vs the 4.11 and 4.44. 4.44 has the tightest gearing so the trans has to actually work less than a 3.54 ratio trans on the same grade of hill as an example. Not to mention the engine working harder also.

Keep in mind, thats just what I've seen being one of the few Subaru mechanics in the town I live in. I have a early 98 Forrester trans on the floor in the shop, wondering if I should swap that out with one of the 4.11's I have so when my trans I just installed fails, I have the 4.44 to go in it. LOL
For one, 3.54 is only used in the SVX auto's and searching will find all of the different reasons why they fail so much. 3.90 is only a manual transmission ratio or fwd auto ratio from imprezas so they shouldn't be failing. 4.11's don't fail in the cars they are originally in because they are in non-turbo 2.2 or smaller displacement cars that weigh a lot less than an SVX and have much less power and torque. This is why they fail so often when swapped into an SVX. You might get lucky and it might last 20k miles, but I wouldn't expect it to last much longer than that unless you are really, really easy on it.

Just my thoughts...
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For one, 3.54 is only used in the SVX auto's and searching will find all of the different reasons why they fail so much. 3.90 is only a manual transmission ratio or fwd auto ratio from imprezas so they shouldn't be failing. 4.11's don't fail in the cars they are originally in because they are in non-turbo 2.2 or smaller displacement cars that weigh a lot less than an SVX and have much less power and torque. This is why they fail so often when swapped into an SVX. You might get lucky and it might last 20k miles, but I wouldn't expect it to last much longer than that unless you are really, really easy on it.

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