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Old 11-15-2004, 03:54 PM
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Stalls when shifting into gears.

New problem:

Car starts fine. Shifting to any position will kill the engine.

1,2,3,D,R kills the engine.

Starts fine from P or N.

Engine will run as long as it's in P or N.

Did a search and found nothing.

Suggestions?
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:21 PM
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Lock-up clutch.

The Torque converter lock-up clutch is locked. Could be the facings seperated to jam the clutch, or the solenoid B is jamed on.
Some one else had this problem a while ago, can't recall who.

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:21 AM
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Re: Lock-up clutch.

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The Torque converter lock-up clutch is locked. Could be the facings seperated to jam the clutch, or the solenoid B is jamed on.
Some one else had this problem a while ago, can't recall who.

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Thanks Harvey. Going to get it towed tomorrow to the mechanic's. I'll give him your info so he'll have a place to start.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:45 PM
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Does the car lurch and stall or does the engine just shut off as if you turned off the key?

If it doesn't lurch then it's not the tranny.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:59 PM
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Does the car lurch and stall or does the engine just shut off as if you turned off the key?

If it doesn't lurch then it's not the tranny.
No lurch. Just like it ran out of gas.
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:23 PM
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If David is correct that no lurch implies it's not the tranny, I wonder if something like the TCU could cause such a thing, i.e., what would happen if the torque control signal got sent to the ECU as soon as a gear was engaged & while at idle? Probably pretty far fetched...I'll go back to sleep now.
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Old 11-17-2004, 04:14 PM
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Stranger things happen.

I think to find out which it is, would be to fit the FWD fuse jack up a front wheel, and see what happens when you pull it into gear. If it is the clutch it won't cut out just spin the wheel. If it is something else it will cut out.

As Lee says the torque control does send a signal to the ECU when the lever is moved. Though I think the ECU is involved more by the indibitor switch signaling the move into gear. As the ECU will look at the idle rpm, and if above the normal idle speed, will cut the fuel to one side of the motor to reduce the shift shock.

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Old 11-17-2004, 06:22 PM
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Do you have (or had) an aftermarket alarm/remote start installed?

It might be in "remote start mode". As soon as you shift out of Park or Neutral it kills the engine.
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:26 PM
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it's when u hit the brakes. the remote alarm cuts the ignition off a brake switch not shifter. im sure u can hit the brake w/out it cutting out right? ill go w/ the torque control because you would feel it if it was the converter clutch.
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Old 11-17-2004, 08:31 PM
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Re: Stranger things happen.

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I think to find out which it is, would be to fit the FWD fuse jack up a front wheel, and see what happens when you pull it into gear. If it is the clutch it won't cut out just spin the wheel. If it is something else it will cut out.

As Lee says the torque control does send a signal to the ECU when the lever is moved. Though I think the ECU is involved more by the indibitor switch signaling the move into gear. As the ECU will look at the idle rpm, and if above the normal idle speed, will cut the fuel to one side of the motor to reduce the shift shock.

Harvey.
Thanks for the input. I'm going to hit the shop in the morning and pass along the info. Just got towed today and hopefully we'll get confirmation on one of the listed suggestions.

Earthworm-no after market alarm or car starter installed.
Tomssvx-I can hit the brakes without it cutting off.
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Re: Stalls when shifting into gears.

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New problem:

Car starts fine. Shifting to any position will kill the engine.

1,2,3,D,R kills the engine.

Starts fine from P or N.

Engine will run as long as it's in P or N.

Did a search and found nothing.

Suggestions?
My guess, you were very low on atf.................
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Re: Lock-up clutch.

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The Torque converter lock-up clutch is locked. Could be the facings seperated to jam the clutch, or the solenoid B is jamed on.
Some one else had this problem a while ago, can't recall who.

Harvey.
this is exactly what happened to my pearlie
transmission guy reckons it was sol b

wow is this thread really from 2004 :/
if not what the hell is going on with the date
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Re: Lock-up clutch.

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this is exactly what happened to my pearlie
transmission guy reckons it was sol b

wow is this thread really from 2004 :/
if not what the hell is going on with the date
I had the same situation, low atf level, added a few quarts, no more issues.
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Re: Lock-up clutch.

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I had the same situation, low atf level, added a few quarts, no more issues.
There is no way that low transmission fluid will kill the motor, it will just not move, Harry said it would kill the motor when put into gear, not that it wouldn't move. (wow, this is an old thread)
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Re: Lock-up clutch.

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There is no way that low transmission fluid will kill the motor, it will just not move, Harry said it would kill the motor when put into gear, not that it wouldn't move. (wow, this is an old thread)
Huck, I recently (manually changed a/t fluid, about 5 quarts out & added 6 qts till atf showed on the dip stick. In the following week the engine died at quick stops, never done that before in 13 years

I was baffled as to why it died. I finally added 2 more quarts of atf & no dead engine when stopping fast since go figure, what do you think?
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