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Why not use water/alc/meth injection?
Since the SVX has a 10.1 to 1 comp ratio it seems like using some sort of injection system using water/alc/meth/propane would be greatly benifical in letting us run alot more boost while still using the stock internals. I know you still need to be able to mess with fuel supply and boost to aculy get any benifits, but it seems like emanage could let us adjust enough to get some pretty large benifits from it. Any opinons?
Here are some links on genral information on it, and evn DYI kit for under $200. http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/waterinjection.html http://www.turbofast.com.au/racefuel.html http://www.buickgn.com/alcoholinjectionsystem.htm http://members.cox.net/stevemonroe/AlcoholInjMod.html http://www.importpoweronline.com/propanecontent.html
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92 Honda CBR 600 95 Miata Last edited by svxsubaru1; 01-31-2006 at 08:48 PM. |
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I've been suggesting this for the last couple years, and back when I was planning to build a turbo EG33, I was planning on using water injection instead of an IC. For mild boost levels, it could easily work in place of an IC. Seems that the most common arguments against it are, "what if it breaks", or "what if I forget to put water in", or "its a hassle to always have to add water".
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I think it could do more than that, theres STi putting out 500 WHP on pump 93 with meth injection. I bet we could get the eg33 to handle +10 PSI on pump if we could get the fuel (injectors/pump)for it with a safe tune with alc/water mix.
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92 Honda CBR 600 95 Miata Last edited by svxsubaru1; 02-01-2006 at 01:05 PM. |
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I have been running the SMC kit on my WRX for almost year now. I picked up 40whp and 60tq from being able to push the boost up and pulling out some fuel. If your crazy like me you may even try adding Nitro to the mix.
If you are going to get one I would suggest getting one with a progressive MAP based controller. |
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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I have a friend with a pickup thats about 10:1 with blower and water injection thing is a 2.25ton weapon. Don't forget the fuel economy benifits of injecting water
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SO.... Go for it mbtoloczko, we have already had one success story this week. Start working on another one.
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Any one have experiance with this? http://www.urdusa.com/product_info.p...s_id=120000037
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92 Honda CBR 600 95 Miata Last edited by svxsubaru1; 03-05-2006 at 09:08 PM. |
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SVXtasy used an AIC in his turbo setup... that part of his setup seemed to work pretty well.
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What about just mixing in a pint of tuolene and a pint of xylene with a tank of gas? I got the idea from Gads he told me to go to a paint store and you can get a 10 gallon container of each. I don't remember what exact octane ended up being but I think that it was around 99. The only thing is that one of the chemicals is for cleaning your valves and the other is the actual octane booster. I gotta get a hold of him and find out which was which.
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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water/alcohol/meth injection is and always will be a good safety or power adder. I've been suggesting it to people as well.
I particularly like the cooling mist controller that is offered.
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What is actually involved in adding a set-up like this?
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Came across an interesting alcohol/water injection kit mentioned on EvoM:
http://www.devilsownonline.com/ For only $290, they have a kit that meters alcohol/water in proportion to the amount of boost. Pretty cool.
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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