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The fact that 13+ year old tech engine still puts out more hp per Liter, mechanically more sound and durible, more fuel efficent that there best power producing GM motor is what I am saying. Yes it cost more at first but look at the life long cost to maintain it. The EJ33 cost less over time. Quote:
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let's not forget the 80's when gm had a certain turbocharged 3.8 L in an ancient buick that would run door to door with a new sti either off the showroom floor or with half a day in the driveway tweekin a little.THE 80'S!!WOW!
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still, you're comparing a turboed 3.8L SIX cylinder to a turboed 2.5L FOUR cylinder.
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yeah... 600 hp from the 4g63 (1g and 2g and evo engine) isn't even a problem
some of the top drag racers that use 1g eclipses (by the way they run as fast as 8 second quartermiles) make over 1200 hp out of 2 liter turbocharged engines. and yeah, this is what zepplin was talking about. Quote:
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More sound and durable? BS... is the EG33 reliable? yes, but so is the LS2, and hell, so is the 3800. and its NOT more fuel efficient. the 400hp LS1 in the corvette gets better or at least equal to the SVX... try 18/28 for the vette (EPA) I personally get about 19 mpg in mostly highway driving in my car, however i'm sure others average more. Just because it doesn't use doesn't use DOHC or variable valve timing, doesn't mean the engine isn't as good. Hell, it makes more power, i THINK (not sure about this one) it weighs less, makes more power, huge torque, uses the same amount of gas... what more do you want in an engine?? I can put a vtec sticker on it if you'd like, but as much as the honda bois think it helps, it doesn't.
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cost is also one of the biggest points. what do you think those guys with over 600 hp. 2 L. engines spent to achieve those numbers? i had an 87 trans am gta with a 350 dropped in from an 87 vette and spent maybe a total of 2500 bucks on parts for it and at all times got between 18-25 mpg and had over 350 hp. according to desktop dyno.i ran in the high 12's and smoked the crap out of 98% of who i came across. as far as reliability, i being the bad boy i was, street raced every night for months straight and never had a knock,tap,ping or anything else out of my 350. the same holds true for the 3.8 L. engine. had an 87 bonneville that would just straight get it down the highway and i drove the crap out of that car something horrible.(first car, 16, you get the picture) it never left me stranded accept for an ign. control module and i was only half a block away when that happened.great mileage and even ran for months with 3 teeth missing off the timing gear! that's damn good engine to me.
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Drivemusicnow just baked a cake wanna try and take it back after the very logical post
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Since you can get a 1G AWD DSM for as little as $500, how do you not see this as possible? Maybe you should do a little research on www.dsmtuners.com or check out the local DSM board here in Denver at www.rmdsm.org and you'll see some guys who know their stuff and are all about cheap reliable power.
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First let me say that I am not trying to get Greg (drivemusicnow) upset or start a fight. If I have then I am sorry.
My point is that the Americian V style engine is inferior to the Boxer type. Yes the Corvette makes 400hp on a V-8 that weight 3179 lbs and get 18/26 mpg turning 6000rpm. The Z06 is America's premiere sports car. Now let look at the Boxer premiere sports car non turbo The Porshe GT3 is a 3.8L Boxer 6. It makes 380hp, weight is 3043lbs and get 15/23mpg and 7400rpm. Linkie Take it for what it is worth. In my opnion, I love the musle car stuff, but the boxer motor is much better then and now stock with no upgrades. Steve
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Nice comparison except I'm sure torque from the Porsche is nowhere near that of the Corvette. (doesn't make we want the Porsche any less though)
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