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View Poll Results: Your choice so far?
Bush 24 36.92%
Kerry 31 47.69%
Nader 3 4.62%
Nobody! 7 10.77%
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:05 PM
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Kenneth, Why would Bush care if you found a nice girl and got married?? Just kidding!
Whoever you want to marry should be of no concern to ANY political leader.
Having said that, I'm voting for Bush/against Kerry because of their stands on gun control, taxes, and not controlling every aspect of a persons life.
From airbags to helmet laws, to waiting periods, WARNING LABELS!!! They should LEAVE US ALONE!!!
Kids in car seats untill they weigh 70lbs!?
WTF, That would put some grownups in car seats!
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Shelf - I was kinda impressed that Cheney actually spoke up in favor of gay marriage. How odd.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:52 PM
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Shelf - I was kinda impressed that Cheney actually spoke up in favor of gay marriage. How odd.
One of his daughters is gay, aculy not sure that he had more than one daugter, but he still backs the repubilcan way of handling it.

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Old 09-30-2004, 05:56 PM
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you cant deny that they had the programs, just that they may not have the weapons can be your case. They also had months to get rid of them if they did indeed have them. They were on they;re way facility wise, and we all know hussain had the money.
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Saddam had UN inspectors for years, ever since the 1st gulf war. The bush administraion has even addited that Iraq did not posses weapons of mass destrution. Bush told a lie to start a war and i cant bring my self to vote for some one that lied and endended up killing 10s of thousands of people if not more. I cant vote for some one that had the power to not let the patriot act go through by him self and he did.
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Please elaborate. Saddam denied a number of rights, I understand.
So does Bush last time i checked people were still being held on guamtomano bay and have not even had a hearing.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:18 PM
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bush (and most conservatives) want to deny my right to marry.
Mine too. I just wonder why they care so much.

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Old 09-30-2004, 07:51 PM
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So does Bush last time i checked people were still being held on guamtomano bay and have not even had a hearing.
And you think these guys would be truthful in a hearing???

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...amo_detainee_2
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Old 09-30-2004, 07:52 PM
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Mine too. I just wonder why they care so much.

Mike
And why do you have such a need to marry? To be more homogenous? To boost the incomes of overworked divorce lawyers? I know plenty of gay folks that abhor the idea of marriage.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:29 PM
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bush (and most conservatives) want to deny my right to marry.
I'm really sorry.... I don't want to start or contribute to a debate because (generally speaking) nothing really gets accomplished other than hackles raised.

I believe that ANY person filling in the role normally defined as "SPOUSE" should get the same benefits as what is currently defined as spouse.
I don't care if that's a same-sex life partner, or a family member who is filling that role. It's simply not fair (and this has nothing to do with the president or any political party) that someone should be denied medical coverage because they are not related "properly"... And IT SHOULD NOT BE REGULATED BY GOVERNMENT...... The private establishments should be smart enough to do this themselves.

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Old 09-30-2004, 08:34 PM
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Ah, civil unions should impose spousal benefits. Make that change but keep the marriage and all its connotations for the opposite sex. If you've never been married to the opposite sex, your opinon is disqualified in that matter.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:59 PM
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Dead from what the massive weapons of mass destrution programs Iraq had?
Nope, dead from the democrats inability to DO ANYTHING.

We can argue all we want about the war now, but this IS a case of the lesser of two evils. If gore had been in office, our govenment would have spent the following year going

what should we do?

I don't know, what do you think we should do?

I don't know what do YOU think we should do?

Let's ask the republicans.

...after asking the republicans...

they said we should fight back

I don't want to fight back, we might get hurt

ok well then what do you want to do?

i don't know what do you want to do?

...and so on...

During that time there would have been three more attacks in which 10,000 more americans would be dead. Ever see the movie "The Sum of All Fears"? Well that would a documentary now if not for Bush.
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Nope, dead from the democrats inability to DO ANYTHING.

We can argue all we want about the war now, but this IS a case of the lesser of two evils. If gore had been in office, our govenment would have spent the following year going

what should we do?

I don't know, what do you think we should do?

I don't know what do YOU think we should do?

Let's ask the republicans.

...after asking the republicans...

they said we should fight back

I don't want to fight back, we might get hurt

ok well then what do you want to do?

i don't know what do you want to do?

...and so on...

During that time there would have been three more attacks in which 10,000 more americans would be dead. Ever see the movie "The Sum of All Fears"? Well that would a documentary now if not for Bush.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Old 09-30-2004, 09:31 PM
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Nope, dead from the democrats inability to DO ANYTHING.

We can argue all we want about the war now, but this IS a case of the lesser of two evils. If gore had been in office, our govenment would have spent the following year going

what should we do?

I don't know, what do you think we should do?

I don't know what do YOU think we should do?

Let's ask the republicans.

...after asking the republicans...

they said we should fight back

I don't want to fight back, we might get hurt

ok well then what do you want to do?

i don't know what do you want to do?

...and so on...

During that time there would have been three more attacks in which 10,000 more americans would be dead. Ever see the movie "The Sum of All Fears"? Well that would a documentary now if not for Bush.
Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, they had no tie to alkida, they had weapons inspectors that even would go through Saddam Husiens bathrooms, that said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction.

Any president would of done as good or better than bush with Afganistan, Bush tookl over 3 months to even drop the first bomb, and we still cant find Osama Binladen and i balme alot of that on bush. When we knew were he was Bush dident have the U.S. soldiegrs go in and get them he out sourced to Afgani war loards that were fighting against weeks before.

Becasue of Bush "terriorst" groups have gained more support against the U.S. world wide with more recruts than ever. Terrorism has also gone up since Bush took action, so today i fell like we have a higher threat of more American being killed becasue of Bushes incompedence.
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Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction
How do you know this? If you somehow have the psychic ability to see into our enemies minds and know what they are thinking, then I think there may be a job for you in the white house.

Just because we found no weapons, doesn't mean there never were, or still are any.

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they had no tie to alkida
Again you can't prove this...plus it's ridiculous to believe that a man who literally lives next door to these terrorists (and even allowed some of them in his own house), shares the same hatred for democracy as the terrorists, and has the money and ability to arm these terrorists, wouldn't be doing so.

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they had weapons inspectors that even would go through Saddam Husiens bathrooms, that said he did not have any weapons of mass destruction.
Ahh...again how do you know this? Could it be that Iraq's info minister actually was not as silly as he sounded? You apparently believe him.

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Any president would of done as good or better than bush with Afganistan, Bush tookl over 3 months to even drop the first bomb, and we still cant find Osama Binladen and i balme alot of that on bush.
We can't find Osama Bin Laden because our country is not focused. We are faltering in Iraq because our country is divided. Democracy means everyone can express their opinion, but for the love of God, when we are at war, and the lives of our fellow citizens are at stake, we need to be 100% behind our troops, not saying "we shouldn't be doing this" or second guessing. That only fuels the enemy.

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When we knew were he was Bush dident have the U.S. soldiegrs go in and get them he out sourced to Afgani war loards that were fighting against weeks before.
If bush had our troops go in after him in that mountain fortress, bush would have been crucified by his critics. Hundreds of American lives would have been lost and we may not have even got OBL anyway. That's why he didn't send them in.

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Becasue of Bush "terriorst" groups have gained more support against the U.S. world wide with more recruts than ever. Terrorism has also gone up since Bush took action, so today i fell like we have a higher threat of more American being killed becasue of Bushes incompedence.
Because of bush, one of the richest al-queda supporters in the world is now no longer an issue, the al-queda network is now on the defensive and has been completely unable to mount any attaks on our soil, and finally, our country has actually stood up for something even when it meant alot of risk to ourselves. That's something that we haven't done in a long time.
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