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A school can be built like a prison without looking or feeling like one, and doors that lock only from the outside maintains fire code. Guns won't save everyone, shrinks won't fix everyone, I think the answer lies less in trusting people to do the right thing and more in removing the opportunity to do the wrong thing.
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Forbes mentions that flawed study yesterday. http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledb...un-possession/
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Good, well-considered points! Of course, you can't begin to count the acts of terror involving suicide so I think that variable could, potentially, be removed from consideration. I'm not sure that the bomb vest massacres are planned out any more so than the CT massacre. But, your points are very good and seem valid. How many massacres, with so many potential variables, would it take to draw a proper scientific conclusion, I wonder. The real answer to how to 'fix' the problem is that no one knows, and I think you suggest that, too. I'm impressed by the thoughtful conversation among SVXers. Not sure you'd get that on many other forums. We seem to favor the Clint Eastwood solution over the Gandhi solution. I think I do, too, because it's what I'm comfortable with. But, when choosing force, though I know it's worked for me, I've always- every time- felt that it wasn't quite right. I just can't explain it. Like I've walked away with bad karma. When I've avoided violence or force, I haven't felt that. It must be late. |
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In the middle of the infamous LA riots, an imperfect man spoke words that haunt me still.
"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along?"
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That's kind of a false dichotomy. There is a host of preventative solutions that aren't as extreme as those two.
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Agreed. It was not intended as a dichotomy at all. Definitely over-simplification as any sort of basis for working toward a solution, and certainly not dichotomous. I'll try to quit posting late night when I get too lazy to be thorough.
Our town's schools have gone into lock down. One entrance only, locked classrooms. More police patrols. Won't prevent something like the Bath School disaster of 1927 but it feels more secure. So, now our schools have locked classrooms, random drug testing for kids in extra-curricular activities, and their school dance style has been restricted to Disney princess type dancing (no more grinding.) It doesn't feel like the age of Aquarius. |
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Or maybe he would have chose to shoot up a daycare instead... Or how about a nice shopping mall or church... You just cant stop CRAZY from being CRAZY, and I am not willing to live in a prison/police state to avoid the random CRAZY. |
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You sir, are a [possibly evil] genius.
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Metal detectors and armed guards. I went to art school in NYC in 1992-94. We had metal detectors and armed guards. This was in the upper east side, very nice area. It was a preventive measure.
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