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Old 03-02-2001, 09:39 AM
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Talking a "seemless" society?


No, no, no, stop that! I just can't take it anymore!

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Old 03-02-2001, 10:33 PM
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Wink Yahoo looking worse all the time

It's strange, but it seems like Yahoo SVX club looks more dated every time I go back to check on it.

Yeah, I like this site just fine! Thanks again to all that made this possible!
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Old 03-05-2001, 06:42 PM
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just a test post

hmmm img off? oh well....
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Old 03-05-2001, 07:13 PM
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settings

I can turn it on, but I am fairly sure that modem users would kill me. If the majority wants IMG tags enabled, I will do this gladly.

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Old 03-05-2001, 09:15 PM
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Question img?

What mean "IMG tags"?

Please translate for the technically impaired!
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Old 03-05-2001, 11:25 PM
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img = "Image" -- this allows you to post pics in your posts. If everyone posts a pic in a particular thread, it will take a long time for the posts to load for us poor b**tards who are stuck with modems and live in the country where cable modem access is not available
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Old 03-06-2001, 06:34 AM
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<<us poor b**tards who are stuck with modems and live in the country>>

That pretty much describes my situation!

Thanks for the translation!
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Old 03-06-2001, 07:20 AM
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Hey, I live in town, and am stuck with a modem. I COULD get a cable modem - I just can't stomach the thought of giving them $30+ each month for basic cable, then add another $30 for a modem. I've thought about ISDN, but that's about the same price as cable. Maybe DSL will be the answer. Who do you give your money to? The cable company or the telephone company? Fortunately, I can do most things from the office. Trying to keep up with Y*h** at home on the weekends was almost impossible; this site is much better in terms of speed.

At least you have the advantage of living in the country.
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Old 03-06-2001, 09:27 AM
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I'm a Direct TV subscriber. I'm waiting for them to start "bouncing off the bird!"
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Old 03-06-2001, 03:16 PM
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Bouncing INET and SAT communications

FYI:
Internet via satellite does offer some nice features, but make sure you know the laws of physics first. The pipe can be big, but the route is 10 times longer or more. Lets draw out and exsample. Lets say you live in Montana in a "cow field." You use a modem and you are trying to view web pages from here. You have the latency from the modem converting the data stream from digital to analong and slowly putting in down the phone line to your ISP. Then from there routers will descide the quickest path to take to hit www.subaru-svx.net and the data will then find its way back to via this route. If you ping this server you will probably find 250 to 350 milisecond time. Now the down side to your modem is sustained data rate.
Now lets look at the same situation, but using a satellite. The pipe is much larger now. You have gone from a 56K to lets say 256K (average DSL speed). But as you make your request to the server here, you might wonder why you modem was faster. The request is now sent out with very little latency due to the signal remains digital. But, it has to now take a speed of light trip up 10 thousand miles to a satellite then another 10 thousand back to earth to the ISP center. Lets say it is in California. Then the signal gets to hit the router at this point and will make its trip up to Idaho for the request and back up 10 thousand miles and back down another 10 thousand miles to your house. This will take anywhere from 600 miliseconds to well over 3 seconds. Becuase viewing web pages with mostly text data on them, your modem will beat a satellite hands down just about every time. The only time it would shine brightly is large file downloads (like mp3s and such) and possibly web pages with WAY too many graphics on it.

Now dont get me wrong. I am not trying to shoot down the service. We will probably be getting one in dads RV for use at the race track this year as an only alternative. I am only speaking from experiance and want people the know the latency issues involved with such a set up.


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Old 03-06-2001, 03:36 PM
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Old 03-14-2001, 12:36 PM
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Cable modem

If you looking for the best price for the speed then go with the cable internet. I do tech support for AT@t high speed internet and the speeds are faster than direct tv and way less. Also the service is 39.95 per month.
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Old 03-14-2001, 01:25 PM
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Unfortunately, they don't offer cable, of any kind, at my location. I live in the country, surrounded by cornfields. No cable tv, no cable modems.
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Old 03-14-2001, 02:25 PM
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Satellite..

Chris, unfortunately you also need a phone line to "up" when you use a sat. the sat wont send. The only thing it does is "down". So using it independently is impossible. On another note i know where you can get one real cheap.. My buddy just switched from sat/modem combo to DSL. and by the way, the sat wont work with free ISP's(juno netzero, etc.) so you have to pay for that service too.

all in all its not worth it...

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Old 03-14-2001, 04:21 PM
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Re: Satellite..

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Originally posted by Rev Hard
Chris, unfortunately you also need a phone line to "up" when you use a sat. the sat wont send. The only thing it does is "down". So using it independently is impossible. On another note i know where you can get one real cheap.. My buddy just switched from sat/modem combo to DSL. and by the way, the sat wont work with free ISP's(juno netzero, etc.) so you have to pay for that service too.

all in all its not worth it...

PAUL!
Actually the system I was refering to IS both up and down on the dish and no phone line required. I know this because I have installed similar systems and I am looking at a lower cost one for use at the race track. The one you are refering to is like a Hughes Direct PC system that requests are made via modem and phone line, and a proxy on the sat service sends returns via the downlink. For more information you can look at www.dishnetwork.com and click the Starlink icon on the botom of the page. Other companies getting into this soon is Direct TV, MSN, and Compaq via Radio Shack.
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