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Dead 5 Speed Tranny
I "HAD" a 5 speed tranny in my 1994 Laguna Blue SVX. It was put in by Small Car for the previous owner. He drove it ~ 5K and I have driven it ~ 4K. From my records, it has not had over 10 K on it after the 5 speed was put in. I don't think it was ever right. Dorian had some vibration problems and had some noises which were passed off as the louder noise of the heavy duty grears that were installed. It continued to vibrate some and I had Brian drive it and he said that it shouldn't do that. I drove it home and it got worse, so I didn't drive it any more until I drove it down to him to have checked out.
Today on of the guys there called and said that the tranny was dead. I still don't have all of the details, but I think that the back drive line was out of alignment and when the back bearings went, it got the rest of the tranny. Do any of you have any ideas what else might have made this thing go south? This is no better than an automatic if this is the service that you get out of a 5 speed. It looks like it may be $3,500 to get this thing repaired! I will talk to Brian and find out if there is anything he can do for me. Just wanted to see if there were any ideas on this situation. Thanks in advance!
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. Earl .... ... .... ><SVX(*> Subaru Ambassador [COLOR=”silver”]1992 Tri Color L[/COLOR] ~45K (06/91) #2430 1992 Dark Teal LS-L ~184K (05/91) #0739 1992 Claret LS-L ~196K (05/91) #0831 1992 Pearl LS-L ~103K (06/91) #1680 1992 Pearl LS-L ~151K (06/91) #2229 1992 Dark Teal LS ~150K (07/91) #3098 (parts car) 1992 White LS-L ~139K (08/92) #6913 1993 25th AE ~98K (02/93) #164 1993 25th AE ~58K (02/93) #176 1993 25th AE ~107K (02/93) #215 1993 25th AE ~162K (02/93) #223 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~124K (1/94) #2408 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~144K (10/93) #1484 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~68K (10/93) #1525 1994 Barcelona Red LSi ~46K (02/94) #2624 1994 Pearl LSi ~41K (12/93) #1961 1995 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~70K (02/95) #855 1996 Polo Green LSi ~95K (03/96) #872 1997 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~55K (08/96) #097 2003 Brilliant Red LS1 Convertible ~29K (04/03) #8951 1999 Magnetic Red LS1 Coupe ~33K (04/99) #6420 My Email | Old Locker | New Locker | Picture of 15 of the 19 |
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Hi Earl. Sorry about the dead tranny. I guess it wasn't the CV joints after all. I can't imagine that it would be $3500 to get the tranny rebuilt. One thought I have is that those heavy duty gears are probably worth some $$$ is they are still good. Maybe you could sell those and put in a stone stock rebuilt 5mt?
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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Brian,
It's possiable that something was damaged in the tranny from the wreck that it came from, I wouldn't take this as the average lifespan of a MT in a SVX, as you said it has had issues since it was installed. I'd replace it with a stock MT and see how it did. Just my thoughts on it....
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The heavy duty gears should make the transmission bulletproof, something must have been broke off the start or when it was installed wasnt alighned. My tranny is around 10k(total) and feels like silk.
phi
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Crap Earl!
I'm sorry to hear that! I agree -- sell those stupid heavy-duty guts and get some stock WRX tranny. You never drove that car hard. How could the tranny wear out unless it was installed inproperly? If Small Car wont fix it or help you somehow, sell the damn gears and get the stock 5-speed. I don't think you should spend the $3,500. That's just BS! We'll get all the NW members to come up to your place one weekend and install it! It shouldn't be so bad when you car is already converted. -Nick |
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Speaking of...Does Brian offer a warranty w/ his 5 spds? Earl, I sure you'll get the booger back on the road before you know it! Bummer...
Do you have 4 1/2 Svx'es now? Good luck and keep us posted! |
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I am going down to Small Car tomorrow and see what my options are. I was wondering the same thing - what is the warrenty on a tranny from them. I was also thinking of maybe changing the gear ratio on it so it is not the lower gear ratio that is in it now. I would be neat to get a 6 speed now! At least a better ratio than the close ones in it now.
Thanks for the support! I am sure it will be back on the road in a little while, but I am really surprised that this did not last. I am also thinking that there was something wrong with it, or installed wrong.
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. Earl .... ... .... ><SVX(*> Subaru Ambassador [COLOR=”silver”]1992 Tri Color L[/COLOR] ~45K (06/91) #2430 1992 Dark Teal LS-L ~184K (05/91) #0739 1992 Claret LS-L ~196K (05/91) #0831 1992 Pearl LS-L ~103K (06/91) #1680 1992 Pearl LS-L ~151K (06/91) #2229 1992 Dark Teal LS ~150K (07/91) #3098 (parts car) 1992 White LS-L ~139K (08/92) #6913 1993 25th AE ~98K (02/93) #164 1993 25th AE ~58K (02/93) #176 1993 25th AE ~107K (02/93) #215 1993 25th AE ~162K (02/93) #223 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~124K (1/94) #2408 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~144K (10/93) #1484 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~68K (10/93) #1525 1994 Barcelona Red LSi ~46K (02/94) #2624 1994 Pearl LSi ~41K (12/93) #1961 1995 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~70K (02/95) #855 1996 Polo Green LSi ~95K (03/96) #872 1997 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~55K (08/96) #097 2003 Brilliant Red LS1 Convertible ~29K (04/03) #8951 1999 Magnetic Red LS1 Coupe ~33K (04/99) #6420 My Email | Old Locker | New Locker | Picture of 15 of the 19 |
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Just got back from Small Car Performance.
To answer John's question Q - "Does Brian offer a warranty w/ his 5 speeds? A - "NO" Used parts have no warranty. Looks like the best of my choices is to rebuild the transmission with new parts and add my gears to it. This way it will be about the same cost as a new one, but with the heavy gears. The differencial went and pieces of it got to other parts. The gears are fine, but the rest is toast. I need u-joints as well. All the parts and labor will be about $4,000. (the price of another car!) I could do it cheaper with another used tranny, but I may get another bad one, and I don't want that.
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. Earl .... ... .... ><SVX(*> Subaru Ambassador [COLOR=”silver”]1992 Tri Color L[/COLOR] ~45K (06/91) #2430 1992 Dark Teal LS-L ~184K (05/91) #0739 1992 Claret LS-L ~196K (05/91) #0831 1992 Pearl LS-L ~103K (06/91) #1680 1992 Pearl LS-L ~151K (06/91) #2229 1992 Dark Teal LS ~150K (07/91) #3098 (parts car) 1992 White LS-L ~139K (08/92) #6913 1993 25th AE ~98K (02/93) #164 1993 25th AE ~58K (02/93) #176 1993 25th AE ~107K (02/93) #215 1993 25th AE ~162K (02/93) #223 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~124K (1/94) #2408 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~144K (10/93) #1484 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~68K (10/93) #1525 1994 Barcelona Red LSi ~46K (02/94) #2624 1994 Pearl LSi ~41K (12/93) #1961 1995 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~70K (02/95) #855 1996 Polo Green LSi ~95K (03/96) #872 1997 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~55K (08/96) #097 2003 Brilliant Red LS1 Convertible ~29K (04/03) #8951 1999 Magnetic Red LS1 Coupe ~33K (04/99) #6420 My Email | Old Locker | New Locker | Picture of 15 of the 19 |
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Mychailo :: 2006 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 9, E85, 34 psi peak, 425wtq/505whp DJ :: 1995 Laguna Blue SVX L AWD 5MT (sold) Visit my locker SVX Mods: ND iridium spark plugs, Impreza RS fpr, afr tuned to 13.2:1 using a custom MAF bypass, custom exhaust, WRX 5MT w/ STi RA 1st-4th gear & stock WRX 5th gear, Exedy 13 lb flywheel & Sport Clutch, STi Group N tranny & engine mounts, urethane spacers in rear subframe, rear diff mounts, and pitch stopper, SVX Sport Strut Springs (185f/150r), custom 19 mm rear swaybar, urethane swaybar mounts, Rota Torque 17x8", 225/45-17 Proxes 4 tires, Axxis Deluxe Plus organic brake pads. |
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If I may add
my 92 converted over to a 5 spd always had noises
and bad vibes I really didnt feel where correct. After 3 months and 1000 miles I sold the car feeling it wasnt going to be anymore reliable then an auto. The auto was smoother and quiter anyway.... and thats the way I like my Svxs anyway...... good luck Earl.........
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My mom will forever live in me and never be forgotten, one day Ill see her again CLICK the LINK below to Visit the SVX Store: http://www.planetsvx.com http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/svx/sig2.jpg Cars in the garage: 92 Toyota Soarer Single Turbo JDM RHD 70 Boss 302 Mustang 39k original miles 97 SVX Lsi 92 Liquid Silver Murano-ized (1st of its kind) 71 Cougar Xr7 Conv 351c 4v 4spd 69 SS Camaro 350 71 Nissan RHD Fairlady Z 70 Stang Fastback 70 Amc AMX 390 71 240z 89 Conquest TSi w/ 5.0 v8 swap 84 Mustang GT Turbo conv "good, if it bleeds, we can kill it ....." |
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the vibration is ALL IN THE TRANSMISSION MOUNT/CROSS MEMBER. i completey rid my car of that, and the tranmisson drives and shifts like silk. The xmember smallcar gave me was garbage, we had to rebuilt it and adjust the height, it left the driveshaft at too much of an angle. With this adressed i can honestly say my car makes ten less vibrations/sounds. just ask rob he got a ride before and after.
phil
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~Phil Teal 1992 Subaru SVX Turbo - Sold in May 2011 to peace-frog. Last edited by Phast SVX; 09-18-2003 at 12:11 AM. |
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cheasy. If I had the time I would of just redone it all and had a new one fabricated correctly.... Time wasnt on my side...... maybe my next one.....
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My mom will forever live in me and never be forgotten, one day Ill see her again CLICK the LINK below to Visit the SVX Store: http://www.planetsvx.com http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/svx/sig2.jpg Cars in the garage: 92 Toyota Soarer Single Turbo JDM RHD 70 Boss 302 Mustang 39k original miles 97 SVX Lsi 92 Liquid Silver Murano-ized (1st of its kind) 71 Cougar Xr7 Conv 351c 4v 4spd 69 SS Camaro 350 71 Nissan RHD Fairlady Z 70 Stang Fastback 70 Amc AMX 390 71 240z 89 Conquest TSi w/ 5.0 v8 swap 84 Mustang GT Turbo conv "good, if it bleeds, we can kill it ....." |
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I talked to Small Car and they told me that they have redesigned the cross member so that it will work better.
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. Earl .... ... .... ><SVX(*> Subaru Ambassador [COLOR=”silver”]1992 Tri Color L[/COLOR] ~45K (06/91) #2430 1992 Dark Teal LS-L ~184K (05/91) #0739 1992 Claret LS-L ~196K (05/91) #0831 1992 Pearl LS-L ~103K (06/91) #1680 1992 Pearl LS-L ~151K (06/91) #2229 1992 Dark Teal LS ~150K (07/91) #3098 (parts car) 1992 White LS-L ~139K (08/92) #6913 1993 25th AE ~98K (02/93) #164 1993 25th AE ~58K (02/93) #176 1993 25th AE ~107K (02/93) #215 1993 25th AE ~162K (02/93) #223 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~124K (1/94) #2408 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~144K (10/93) #1484 1994 Laguna Blue Pearl LSi ~68K (10/93) #1525 1994 Barcelona Red LSi ~46K (02/94) #2624 1994 Pearl LSi ~41K (12/93) #1961 1995 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~70K (02/95) #855 1996 Polo Green LSi ~95K (03/96) #872 1997 Bordeaux Pearl LSi ~55K (08/96) #097 2003 Brilliant Red LS1 Convertible ~29K (04/03) #8951 1999 Magnetic Red LS1 Coupe ~33K (04/99) #6420 My Email | Old Locker | New Locker | Picture of 15 of the 19 |
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