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Old 03-13-2011, 11:19 AM
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If the opposite of pro is con, then what must be the opposite of progress?
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:21 AM
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Ar, Ar, very funny!
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If the opposite of pro is con, then what must be the opposite of progress?
A Republican controlled congress, just in case you forgot.
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A Republican controlled congress, just in case you forgot.
Wheres the like button when I need it?
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Re: This could explain a lot

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Just by touching the button, the capacitive reaction by your monitor, coupled with the hexa-coupling of the inductive resonance
produced by the website's multi-complicator, allows a vote to be quietly counted and recorded.

(At least this is how it was explained to me by my state senator)


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A Republican controlled congress, just in case you forgot.
Thank goodness! Maybe they can steer us away from financial disaster that we were headed for under total democrat control.

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Thank goodness! Maybe they can steer us away from financial disaster that we were headed for under total democrat control.

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"Away from the financial disaster that we're already in"

Glad someone agrees with me
Trying to blame one party is futile, they are both guilty of lowering taxes, starting unfunded wars and rewarding and protecting special interests like Wall Street. This country needs election reform i.e. public supported elections and limitations on special interests.

Americans need to stop exporting jobs and start creating good middle class jobs. For the last thirty years the disparity between the wealthiest and poorest in our country has been growing unlike anywhere else in the world. Without a healthy middle class, our country is doomed.

The bottom line is that we all cannot expect someone else to pay via taxes for wars, road, schools etc. but we need a level playing field and a fair distribution of wealth. My goal is to pay $1,000,000 plus a year in taxes for this will mean that I will have to try to get by with only another $2,000,000 income. I think we should all want to pay our (fair) share of taxes for few countries allow such opportunities and upper mobility as ours, or at least as our country used to.

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Funny how most of the moves to "steer us away from financial disaster" have awarded tax breaks to the rich and corporations while cutting needed services and budgets for departments like the EPA , responsible for protecting your water and air quality. Somehow I doubt that you folks are among the beneficiaries of this largesse. Maybe you could consider listening to something other than FOX News and "hate radio". If you believe that the travesties against collective bargaining in the public sector (including the teachers of your children) and emergency powers granted to their corporate controlled governors that are happening in Wisconsin and Michigan can't effect you it's time you wake up.

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]The bottom line is that we all cannot expect someone else to pay via taxes for wars, road, schools etc. but we need a level playing field and a fair distribution of wealth.
I think we should all want to pay our (fair) share of taxes for few countries allow such opportunities and upper mobility as ours, or at least as our country used to.

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Absolutely right, Ray. It's not paying taxes that I got a problem with, it's what those taxes are being used for. When they're paying the welfare checks of people who are too lazy to get off their asses and get jobs, when they're paying for housing, grocieries, and healthcare of people who couldn't keep it in their pants and got ten bastard kids running around, then I got a problem. Meanwhile I'm replacing balljoints and shocks twice a year because they can't fix the pot holes littering the roads.
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Absolutely right, Ray. It's not paying taxes that I got a problem with, it's what those taxes are being used for. When they're paying the welfare checks of people who are too lazy to get off their asses and get jobs, when they're paying for housing, grocieries, and healthcare of people who couldn't keep it in their pants and got ten bastard kids running around, then I got a problem. Meanwhile I'm replacing balljoints and shocks twice a year because they can't fix the pot holes littering the roads.
Difficult not to agree with your point, many of us have issues with how our taxes are spent but it really does come back to whom we put in office and how they decide to spend our money. Regarding welfare...I agree we should not be promoting people not to work or have children they don't want or are not able to care for but once again those people are just using the system set up by our politicians. I do believe that we need to care for the less fortunate but not promote freeloading of any kind. I will bet that corporate welfare - can you say bail out - far exceed all welfare payments annually; and at least the welfare people spend there money in the US unlike so many of the rich who own homes, yachts and cars made overseas.

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they are both guilty of lowering taxes
What is wrong with that? It is not how much money you have, but how you spend it. We pay far too much in taxes. I don't personally get any gain from at least 50 percent of the taxes I pay.
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What is wrong with that? It is not how much money you have, but how you spend it. We pay far too much in taxes. I don't personally get any gain from at least 50 percent of the taxes I pay.
Can you say deficit!!! The United States has one of the lowest tax rates in the industrialize world, meanwhile our infrastructure is crumbling. I think it is difficult to personalize what one receives directly from taxes but from my travels around the world, I think we take for granted many of the freedoms and opportunities our system provides us. I do agree with your point on how we spend our tax revenues...I sure wish other countries that rely on our military made a contribution to that expense. If we are going to be the policeman of the world, we should at least get paid for it.

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it really does come back to whom we put in office and how they decide to spend our money.
And we decide who to put in office by what they promise they'll do. It requires more responsibility of the voters to thoroughly evaluate the candidates and not be emotionally swayed by one hell of a teleprompter reader. The last presidential election was a very emotional, irresponsible one.
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And we decide who to put in office by what they promise they'll do. It requires more responsibility of the voters to thoroughly evaluate the candidates and not be emotionally swayed by one hell of a teleprompter reader. The last presidential election was a very emotional, irresponsible one.
Personally I think we are sold a bill of goods by both parties and the powers that be get what they want. I totally agree about an informed electorate but in Utah, the most conservative state in the union, has one of the lowest voter turn outs in the country. They don't even bother to become informed whereas in other countries people stand in line for hours just to cast their vote. Presently we have people rebelling against oppressive regimes in the Middle East, fighting and dying for the rights we take for granted. Once again, many of us take for granted many of our rights. Guess I am getting old and cynical but I sure wish we all could have more civil discourse and agree on how to solve our countries' problems.

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