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Old 01-18-2003, 06:51 AM
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Love all this car talk. Really gets the juices flowing, so to speak.

I was in the local Sunaru Dealer (Herndon's Paul Brothers) the other day, and they were telling me that the OUTBACK base model will now be getting the new 3.0 six. Subaru discovered (suprise! ) that the people want the additional HP but WITHOUT loading up with all of the expensive options. Clearly they were not selling as many 3.0 OUTBACK's as they could.

As for the WRX STi, the entire Washington, DC Metro area will get only 40 cars - very limited production. The Herndon dealer is "hopeing" to get one. I suspect some "additional dealer profit" will be tacked on to all of the STi's.

And personally, I think Subaru will be stepping up to the plate and competing with the BMW's and Audi's sooner rather than later. So Miss Brenda may not be far off. Most of the auto mags feed off od speculation anyway - some good, some bad. Not to say that automobile manufacturers don't put out misleading info. Nah, they would never do that ....And I don't think the boxer engine is going away either.
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Old 01-18-2003, 07:58 AM
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If GM contaminates the Subaru bloodline I will personally destroy every GM product I come in contact with. So don't do it GM, if you do anything put a boxer in the Corvette.

Why did Subaru get buddy, buddy with GM anyway I thought they were sell Outbacks as fast as they could make them? and I'm sure there isn't anything they could learn from them.
I wouldn't worry much about GM unless they considerably up their ownship percentage. 20% seems in the ballpark for a technology-transfer agreement. GM owns a like percentage in Toyota, without impact to Toyota's product quality. Toyota did the buy-in thing with Yamaha to move into Formula 1. It seems to be the way corporations gain info - if you own a large share you won't misuse the knowledge, or else you hurt yourself financially - gotta own enough that the hurt is real.

It may well be that Subaru plans to move into "trucks" with a dual-badged product, i.e., Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, - see Boone's post/link.
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Re: Re: Re: And [i]another[/i] thing...

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Alan,

230HP is a lot better than the 165HP that is currently in our Outback wagon.
......and 300hp is alot better than 230.

all of Subaru's cars kept getting heavier, but the hp never changed. major gripe in car reviews is that Subarus (with the exception of the WRX) are underpowered.
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Hmm.. GM owns 20% of FHI, parent to Subaru.

found this --> http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evo_news_story.php?id=28556
Interesting story, I guess it's not so bad if Subarus just going to use GM's money to build high end luxo cars, but then who would buy a Crapalak STS when you could have a Subaru quality equivalent?
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It still blows my mind that Subaru can put a "GT" label on their top Legacy....and not put in the new H-6. Our local dealers says they have no plans to do so....all those engines are for Outbacks.
Maybe they are going the "Blitzen" route with turbos later, but a six would be just right to make the GT a nice Interstate cruiser right now. Don
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On CAR and DRIVER this weekend the had shots of the twin turbo 3 liter legacy wagon with 350hp. only$ 45,000. I don't care for the body design ,but would love that engine backed by a six speed in a 97 Svx.
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On Car and Driver! So is that a confirmation that it exists and is coming to the US.
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On CAR and DRIVER this weekend the had shots of the twin turbo 3 liter legacy wagon with 350hp. only$ 45,000. I don't care for the body design ,but would love that engine backed by a six speed in a 97 Svx.
was that the picture with A BUNCH of cladding on it to hide it from spy photograhers? i don't think that is what it will REALLY look like if it looks anything like the B4, it'll be sweet.
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re: toyota supra

well, i don't see why it's not possible. the toyota supra stock nonturbo is about the same weight as the svx probably 100-200 pounds lighter and kicks out 220hp. the twin turbo supra kicks out 320hp and both are v6 3.0 liter engines altho inline vs flat/boxers. i went to a subaru dealership recently and saw that the outback 6 cylinder had about 200hp plus or minus 10hp so it's not that far off. just like the wrx sti has nearly 300hp.

question is will that 350hp twinturbo fit in our svx'es? if it would that would be great.
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