Is this attached picture an Italian car ? Yes it is.

[anthonybuchanan]

This picture of solarsvx's car is a Japanese made car.

Is the car in this picture also a Giugiaro ? Yes it is.

Would'nt someone working at Giugiaro's design shop, upon seeing the SVX driving down the street, pause and say, "thats one of ours".

Does this also means that this is a picture of an Italian car ? Yes it does.

It all depends on your perspective doesnt it ? Even if you do not work at their design house however you look at cars from a design perspective, its okay for you, the SVX owner, to consider your car an Italian car.

Therefore, when driving down the street in your SVX and asked what kind of car it is, if you were to answer, "its an Italian car", then you would be stating a fact because from a design perspective the SVX is in fact an Italian car.

Is the iphone an American product or is it Chinese since it is Chinese made ?

[SVXMAN2001]

Ok, the svx is NOT an italian car. Subaru came up with design way before Giugiaro came along. Yes Guigiaro did come by and give some design suggestions and advice to subaru designers, but this was done after the design that we see today had largely taken shape. Give credit where its due...Subaru designers! If you don't believe me, read the road and track review of the car....

[anthonybuchanan]

Did not know that.

Just to play deviles advocate; how do you know Road and Track is correct. Not that they are wrong however why would Subaru approach an Italian Design house after the design is already done.

Just doesnt seem right.

[RSVX]

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Play nice, I would hate to see another anthonybuchanan bashing thread come into existence.

[Wikedjuggalo]

Question is why did this thread even start?

[SVXMAN2001]

Anthony, you could be right, they could have their facts mistaken. But their (road and track's) comprehensive write up, was pretty spot on.

What convinced me was that you can see the evolution of the svx over many preceding models, parts of the legacy and the xt6, that make their way into the shapes of the svx. And Guigiaro did not have a part in them, or least lay claim to having any part in their design. For me the SVX soley belongs to Subaru and i respect Subaru as i company b/c, few if any other company's in the same situation as subaru took such a significant gamble by trying to jump into the higher end automotive market. There was such a devotion and dedication by the designers of the SVX at Subaru that to say that the SVX is a Giugiaro design is almost disrespectful.

[anthonybuchanan]

RSVX, are you saying I am not playing nice ?

I have a question to ponder so I bring it up and I'm being a jerk ?

The fact that these stickers are being worn by some and judging by other threads, desired by others, indicates to me that there is something here that needs to be explored. It seems that a lot of people think the Italians may have had a huge influence on this design if not total influence and want to "represent" that.

SVXMAN2001 just responded in the gentlemanly manner that he always does.
Wikedjuggalo then jumped in and made a negative comment. You should be contacting Wikedjuggalo and not me.

If you are afraid a reading hot threads then don't read them or respond. I can bash with the best of these punks that want to bash with me. You know what I say ? I say, "bring it". I'll take on anyone here in this forum or right here in my home town so "come strong sucka".

Just wanted to mentioned that okay.

Insofar as SVXMAN2001's comment, he has me thinking now.

I will investigate his point because he might be right.

Im going to review the evolution of subaru cars and see if he is really on to something here. Maybe it really is subarus design.

[anthonybuchanan]

Rather than bash me, lets discuss the evolution of subaru designs.

But if don't want to discuss this with me and you want to tango with me then "lets get it on".

[SVXMAN2001]

Anthony, you are bringing up an issue that has been going on for quite some time and I am more than happy to explore the possibility that Giugiaro had a much more significant hand in the ultimate design of our beloved SVX. You have brought up some very interesting points, however, you are undermining whatever contributive information you have and will continue to provide to this and other threads. Posting comments such as "bring it on" only hurts you and makes you look like the bad guy. So before this gets out of hand or anyone starts dismissing an otherwise legitimate thread, lets get back to topic.

As for the road and track article, I am JamsSVX (guy from Australia) had a website that contained uploaded copies of each page of the write up, maybe it? At any rate, once you do get your hands on it you'll be overloaded with all the information contained within, everything you would want to know!

Honestly, IMO, people cling to the Giugiaro claim to make themselves feel better that they are not driving a japanese made automobile made by Subaru (a company for the longest time has been known for making economical, eco box, rather run of the mill vehicles...however, not so much now), but rather a uniquely luxurious italian designed work of art, hell I even said it when I first bought my svx eight years ago, although now I know better.

[TomsSVX]

Is this thread asking a question??

Tom

[anthonybuchanan]

Sorry for my negative comments.

I would like to settle this matter because it seems to have been brought up before however never settled.

Probably because its been bashed down.

Please ignore my comments. They will not happen again as long as others behave themselves and behave like gentlemen or not respond at all.

[solarsvx]

the logo is no longer on my car,

please dont use my car as a reference,

please lock or remove the picture


thanks

Originally Posted by RSVX

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Play nice, I would hate to see another anthonybuchanan bashing thread come into existence.

[NikFu S.]

This thread can not be resolved until someone explains who initially penned the design for this car.
No one as far as I can tell has rescinded the Guigaro claim and almost everyone thinks the badges are both cool and relevant.

Are they or are they not?

My wheels were made in Italy. I can has Italian car plz?

[TomsSVX]

I don't understand the confusion... It may have a hint of Italian design but the cars were built by a Japanese company IN JAPAN... It is a Japanese car with Italian influences... That wraps it up I think...

Tom

[NikFu S.]

But is it or is it not ok to say Guigaro "designed" the body?