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Old 10-31-2011, 07:34 PM
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FT-86 (Scion FR-S)



that's right it's at SEMA and guess who's gonna see it....

*points to self* This guy!
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:40 PM
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Re: FT-86 (Scion FR-S)

Read first drive in the new Car & Driver. It's really a Subie, engineered and built by your favorite manufacturer in Gunma. Amusing comment made that it "...feels more like a joint venture between Subaru and Lotus than a collaboration with Camrys-By-The_Billions, Ltd."
And have a great time at SEMA. Awesome show!
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:49 PM
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It looks pissed off!
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Re: FT-86 (Scion FR-S)

It's a good looking car. I'm be very surprised if the Subaru version doesnt have a great deal of "frumpy" added into the design.
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: FT-86 (Scion FR-S)

I still love that car

Theres been alot of stuff leaking out about the Toyota/ Scion Versons.....


Ive just copy and pasted all from ft86 club forum.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2096

Heres the jist of things

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Scion FR-S / FT-86 / Subaru BRZ Specs and Options Revealed! 200hp / 151 lb-ft tq
Scans from a training manual.

Power/weight:

HP: 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm
Torque: 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm
Weight:
2662 ponds (1210kg) for base manual (~ 2580 lbs dry weight)
2706 pounds for higher trim manual

Columns:
First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is a higher spec model, column 2 is a lower spec model. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

Top Section:
The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight.
Top spec manual is 1230kg, auto is 1250kg.
Low spec manual is 1210kg, auto is 1230kg.
Then its turning radius.
High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16.

Second Section:
This section is engine. Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc. Output as listed on 1st post above. Drinks premium unleaded and 50L fuel tank.

Fuel consumption base model:
13 km/l
30.58 mpg
49.21 kmg

Fuel consumption top model:
12.4 km/l
29.17 mpg
46.94 kmg

Third Section:
This section is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.

High spec brakes: ventilated discs front and rear.
Low spec brakes: ventilated front, non ventilated rear.

Last Section:
Last section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.


More update:

Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".


MORE THINGS OF NOTE:

Strut front, double wishbone rear suspension
Base halogens, optional HIDs on base trim, standard HIDs on high trim
LSD on all MT cars
Stability control standard
Only 2 speaker audio on base car

High Spec:

Has "high-quality fabric" (上級ファブリック).
Option for leather heated seats with Alcantara inserts.
Steel door sill insert / scuff plate (ステンレス製ドアスカッフプレート)
Interior metallic door handle inserts
Carbon fiber center console trim
Door courtesy light
Knee pad on console

The "Customize Grade" at the bottom is interesting:

the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg !!
Unpainted bumper
16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
plastic steering wheel
NO A/C (only a heater)
Power door locks
Sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
No speakers

the car in fact does require premium unleaded gas (無鉛プレミアム)
the rear seat is one piece and is foldable (一体可動式)
did anyone mention that the high spec model comes with a digital speedo and tachometer? (デジタルスピードメーター revメーター)



Here are translated charts (by our members Spaceywilly and dimension6!!)





Training manual images:

[img width=576 height=768]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i139/xtsub/subaru%20history%20pics%20etc/Concept%20and%20Prototype%20Subarus/Toyota%20Subaru%20FT-86/ft86specs1.jpg[/img]



Heres a few other leaked bits and pieces....










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It's a good looking car. I'm be very surprised if the Subaru version doesnt have a great deal of "frumpy" added into the design.
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no AWD, no power, no care.

it might be fun to drive for a couple weeks, but with the power-to-weight ratio of a Chrysler PT Cruiser, it would get boring pretty quickly for me.

SVX'ers can be glad to know that their 10-year old car will hit 0-60mph in about the same time as Subaru's brand new sportscar.
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Re: FT-86 (Scion FR-S)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...e_first_drive/

Interesting article, but doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know.
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Re: FT-86 (Scion FR-S)

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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...e_first_drive/

Interesting article, but doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know.
that was a good article!
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/n...led-2011-11-01
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Hey SVX'ers. I got a chance to see both variants up close and personal last weekend at the LA Auto Show. Thought I'd share with y'all some









It's a foxy car all right. It really isn't a successor to the SVX, but the XT seems a more fitting comparison. It's about XT sized believe it or not, which may explain why they trotted out an XT instead of an SVX at their SEMA booth. I'd place it's size right between the Miata and the RX-8 race car Mazda had on display next door. It's considerably smaller than the Genesis or 370Z.

I personally couldn't stomach the design excess of the Scion. Between the hood and rocker in front of the doors there are 11 horizontal creases in the bodywork. Some of those don't last more than 6". It came off looking like a mockery of modern styling than a product of it, similar to the last gen Celica with the optional body kit.

I took a lot of pics of it, but it's ugly from every angle. I didn't bother editing them because it's like lipstick on a pig.





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That Subaru version is actually a damned nice looking car Might be worth looking at when I get tired of my incoming Bimmer 135i
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That Subaru version is actually a damned nice looking car Might be worth looking at when I get tired of my incoming Bimmer 135i
it sure is a nice looking car ,
there was a write up on it in the aust "daily telegraph" i cant find it on the net to post a link but it does have a bit at the end about the svx

"When the BRZ hits the road it will be the first subaru coupe since the flabby SVX of 1991. That car was intended as a grand tourer and has a six-cylinder engine, as well as a jet-fighter-style side glass with a small opening for the windows in the doors "

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When the time comes to get a new car I will definitely be considering the Subi version. If it was AWD there would be no question about it.
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The Scion looks like it might be happier as a boat.

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