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This is the gas I use exclusively:
http://www.myhusky.ca/ethanol/index.php I'm not sure the percentage of ethanol but I have no issues and my mileage is fine. I use 94 octane and pay the same price as regular (87).
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its a 10% blend they have the same thing in Iowa but only with 89 octane... just dont put it in your old caddilac!
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I use Sunoco Ultra94 exclusively. It's not cheap, but it's the highest octane around. I believe it is a 10% ethanol blend.
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I am so glad to be getting back to 93/94 octane when I move back East. Steve
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If I recall corectly, the amount of base octane in the fuel has something to do with the elevation in your region. Differing octane for areas at sea level, compared to those in mountainous regions... or something.
I couldn't get 93 or 94 Octane when I lived in Northern Ontario; usually the best I could do was 91, sometimes 92, but rarely. Oh, except a few kms outside of the town where I lived, there is a station called "The Pit Stop" which is en route to the local racetrack, and they sell 110 octane race gas... never been brave enough to try it though.
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1992 LS-L Touring, Liquid Silver w/ Black, 110k mi. "Alice." Rebuilt title. Mods: WRX 6-CD changer, 17x8" Motegi LC-12 (16.5lbs), PWR rad, Perrin LCP, JDM v.8 6MT + R180, Koni + Ground Control (325f/280r), Earthworm Bushings. Awaiting resto. 1994 LSI The legendary "Shotgun Slade" 110k mi and still going strong! 2005 Outback XT Limited 5MT, Obsidian Black Pearl, 211k km, daily driver. 1999 Mazda MX5 base 5MT, Twilight Blue Metallic, 152k km. "Twilight Sparkle" Summer daily driver! 2007 Honda CR-V, some awful shade of light green *yawn* 1992 LS-L Touring, Ebony Mica, 176k kms. Parts car. SCRAPPED. 1992 LS-L, Dark Teal, 367k km. "Wintergreen" the winter beater.*SCRAPPED due to rust* Last edited by Nemesis Destiny; 05-01-2006 at 07:55 PM. |
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It does not burn hotter, it has a higher Latent heat of evaporation, takes more heat to turn it into a vapor. Can run compression ratios to 15:1, Has about half the Calorific value of petrol, so has to run richer air/fuel ratios around 7:1. Doesn't flow through small holes as easly as petrol. Does attack nylons and such in Pumps, injectors. 10% mix is OK in most cars. I have run 10% OK. Harvey.
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1992 LS-L Touring, Liquid Silver w/ Black, 110k mi. "Alice." Rebuilt title. Mods: WRX 6-CD changer, 17x8" Motegi LC-12 (16.5lbs), PWR rad, Perrin LCP, JDM v.8 6MT + R180, Koni + Ground Control (325f/280r), Earthworm Bushings. Awaiting resto. 1994 LSI The legendary "Shotgun Slade" 110k mi and still going strong! 2005 Outback XT Limited 5MT, Obsidian Black Pearl, 211k km, daily driver. 1999 Mazda MX5 base 5MT, Twilight Blue Metallic, 152k km. "Twilight Sparkle" Summer daily driver! 2007 Honda CR-V, some awful shade of light green *yawn* 1992 LS-L Touring, Ebony Mica, 176k kms. Parts car. SCRAPPED. 1992 LS-L, Dark Teal, 367k km. "Wintergreen" the winter beater.*SCRAPPED due to rust* |
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I found this while searching seems to good to be true.
http://xcelplus.com/e85/e85informationcenter.htm
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I'm glad Harvey piped in with a bit of valid info. here. I've actually had to learn about alternative fuels all-too-much due to me being an auto. engineering student, and the fact that my school is one of the primary research facilities for ethanol/alternative fuels. Here in MN we have been E10 for I think, at least a decade +/-. We should be transitioning to E20 sometime in the next couple years.
Harvey is right that it doesn't burn hotter, if anything... it would be cooler. The amount of energy contained in standard petrol is around 110,000 BTU's per pound whereas E85 (or was it E100 ) has around 92,000 BTU's per pound... I'm not getting the figures exactly right since I'm going off memory. This is the reason that gas mileage is worse when running an ethanol mix... more needs to be burned in order to get the same amount of energy you would from petrol. This is really the only issue that comes into play when trying to run a vehicle on E85 that isn't intented for it. The only thing that it really needs is the ability to inject more fuel for the same load that would normally take less when using standard petrol. Hence, most vehicles, especially newer vehicles, have the ability to run E85. The ECM just has to be able to adapt to the different fuel and the fuel system has to have the ability to pump out a bit more. Some non-metal bits MAY be susceptible to drying out... but most materials used nowadays don't have issues with this, at least not over a period of a couple years or so. Also, Harvey is right that it will allow for higher compression ratios, since it does have an innate higher octane rating... I think E100 was somewhere around 102 or 106. Even though logic would point to this creating a cold start issue... research has shown that it is actually a bit easier to start (higher RVP) until you start going over a 20% mix. Now, as for the cost effectivenes issue. There really isn't a point right now since ethanol is still expensive. This is due to the enormous demand for ethanol in the midwest and the fact that there are only 2 or 3 processing plants... hence driving the price up. This will change, though, and ethanol mixes will become cheaper and eventually (probably) country wide. For now, I would just not bother with going out of your way to use E85... especially in a car that is more than 5/6 years old and/or not "intented" for E85. BTW, Steve, haven't you ever gone to a Holiday? Almost all of them have 93 octane, and you should know there is nothing beneficial to running higher octance than is recommended for your engine (unless you're boostin')... silly.
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