we caught him!!!

[CigarJohnny]

Originally posted by Aredubjay



Some seem to forget the fact that the US began as a "colony," so, we're not exactly numb to what colonization means. Sheesh, it took us forever to get rid of those pesky British . Now, they're our staunchest ally. I'm not all about "occupation" but, I am in favor of liberation. If there's a situation in which the leader of a country is sumarrily deleting humans, merely because they are not of the same "sect" or race, and the UN turns a blind eye, I'm all for going in and removing said "leader." No, what the "leader" would do to his own citizens IS our business. Hitler was our business . . . Moussolini was our business . . . Idi Amin was our business (of course, he went on his own) . . . because, if left unchecked, these people will spread their poison as far as they can, or, they will merely exploit their own people to show their power.


Yes, the US made "happy" with Iraq, when it suited them. Yes, the US trained Bin Laden. Yes, many of the guerillas in the South American countries were US trained. We make strategic moves to accomplish what is needed at the time. It's pure and simply "what's done" and the US is not exclusive in its use of such tactics.

As far as the US goes, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we try to aid a country, people get pissed and ask "why did you do that?" If we sit back and let some despot grind his people into a bloody pulp, we're asked, "why didn't you do something?" It's a dicotomy we'll just have to live with.

What really gualds my balls is for our guys to die, doing what they believe is right, and then have people "poo poo" their sacrifice as being "stupid." Personally, I wish we could bring ALL of our boys home and simply keep them around our borders, and leave the rest of the world to their own devices. But, that's not possible, so, until the rest of the world can take full and complete care of it's own damned problems, I say, quit giving the US crap every time one of our boys has to die to clean up someone elses mess.

Just my thoughts.

I am in complete agreement and could not have said it better myself.

[Aredubjay]

Originally posted by mohrds



We also tried to help in Somalia where hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians were being killed. Unfortunately, our liberal president at that time tied the hands of the military and prevented anything other than pointless loss of life on both sides.

Doug

Ouch, that one touches a nerve. I think I'll take some novocain instead of jumping on this one.

[Seraph]

Originally posted by Mr. Pockets
In my opinion, this isn't the type of thread we should close. It's a civilized discussion so far, and I don't have a problem with that. It's off-topic, but that's what this forum is for.

We have pretty free and open newsgroups here at work, but at least two things are banned: discussions surrounding religion or politics. Do we need to do that here? I don't think so, but maybe some people do...

I am not saying we should close this thread. I am just sayng I am done. I'd be more than happy to continue this one at Reading at the bar though.

[Mr. Pockets]

Originally posted by Seraph



I am not saying we should close this thread. I am just sayng I am done. I'd be more than happy to continue this one at Reading at the bar though.

Phil did. He said we should close it. I was answering him.

Does everything have to be about you?

[Aredubjay]

Originally posted by Seraph



I am not saying we should close this thread. I am just sayng I am done. I'd be more than happy to continue this one at Reading at the bar though.

Yikes! In my "former life" alcohol and discussions along political, patriotic or religious lines did not mix. Let's just bring our "happy thoughts" to the "Bah" at Reading.

[Seraph]

Originally posted by Mr. Pockets


Does everything have to be about you?

What? The world does not revolve around me?

[petesvx2]

Originally posted by Landshark


its OK, little 2Pete - i had enough for the both of us watching the Steelers throw their season in the sh*tter today.

Just speak like a Red Sox fan, "We'll get 'em next year!"

[petesvx2]

I just want to say something about this, well something along the lines...

What we have done in Iraq wasn't an invasion, it was liberation. There was never a draft to throw people into the warzone. The people out there, volunteered themselves for the greater cause, and I think that that is a very noble thing to do. Everyone in the armed forces is a top of the line individual for doing what they have done, giving up their chances for survival, for the good well being of others, giving people the freedom to in fact, sit in their easy chair with a beer.



This didnt really have anything to do with anything...

GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!