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"Israel should have been in Europe and not in the Middle East" I think I answered you
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I am well aware everything in the Middle East is largely centered around religion, that is why a primarily Jewish country such as Israel is being given a double standard. For example you stated how Lebenon ousted the Palestinians because Yasser Arafat seeked control, well guess what that is also why Jordan did the same but instead did so by killing them. The somewhat ironic part about that was that in the Bafour Decloration Jordan was meant to be the home of Muslims who wanted to leave Israel, but of course the natives including the king of the newly independent Jordan didn't want that. Aside from Americans, the Palestinians seem to be the only other people that are loved yet largely disliked by everyone. So you see the only reason why Israel is clearly hated in the Middle East is because it is not a Muslim country. Quote:
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But yes, I do agree that some of the conduct the IDF did was wrong, but their way of thinking was that your government supported those who were against them. I guess you can compare it to how NATO behaved in Kosovo or a better example maybe Iraq. Quote:
And not back to the topic of this controversial cartoon. It appears that some governments of nations in the Middle East are using this cartoon to cover up other people and guess who else reprinted it. Last edited by Weebitob; 02-10-2006 at 04:43 PM. |
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No, this is not the only reason why Israel is hated in the middle east, well as a matter of fact Lebanon was a Christian country before 1990 before it became now a mixed country. We were never hated at that time... So pls Weebitob, understand what I am telling you, all those beliefs you have are all wrong. You will never get the picture until Jews invade your country and slaughter your countrypeople in front of you.. They are known as Backstabbers, at the point they assure you that everything is Ok, they just shoot you the first second you turn your back to them. Look I am not defending muslims, and I am telling you again that we hate each other here, we were in a civil war and killed each other... but I have to put my finger on the wound, even though I never trust Muslims, I still entrust them more than Jews. Quote:
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Look I dunno why you are defending them that much, but we have experienced Israelis over here and believe it or not, they can never be trusted. Here is the order: Jews, Druzes, Muslims.
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As for the Arab countries that become independent from colonial rule. Those people did suffer allot of strife and oppresion but the European countries simply let them go after WWII because they couldn't afford to continue to occupy them. You are aware that main land Europe layed in ruits after WWII right? But all wasn't lost since the oil companies of those nations managed to arrange deals with the Arab ones to continue operations. Quote:
Btw, you know that the president of Israel Moshe Katsav, the one who actually handles foriegn afairs is or at least was born in Iran? I would also like to know what makes Druzes so untrustworthy? Last edited by Weebitob; 02-10-2006 at 10:20 PM. |
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Very interesting thread. Danny - it's really interesting to see your point of view from there vs. what they want us to see on the news.
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Traveling internationally the first thing I do is find an english news station to get a different point of view...
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NaaaaaHH!!! On WALL STREET!!! That way Most of them wouldn't have to MOVE!!!
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since I have been reading this thread, I no longer need the LIARS that own our media
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I have an opinion on most subjects, and go to the source to get what I need to form the opinion. When it was 'gun control' , I went to my friend in Austrailia, where they hunt rabbits with a dog and stick, because the government has dis-armed them!! My friend that had the 'cookout' previously discribed' , is a world traveler, that started a newspaper when he came home from Germany in the late 70's He was a 'starter' at Duke Univ, (Basket ball) and was one of the star players. Steve Vandenburg.. I wish to ask 'permission' from all of you that have posted on this topic, to show it to Steve, and let what happens, happen!! The major players in this 'saga', have gotten a 'pass' on the major outlets, and Steve would present 'the facts', and let the chips fall where they may! This is a topic that could use a few facts interjected with the opinions that dominate the media, ( however, the only place this is being discussed, is Rush Limbaugh), and it is a 2 way street there! Jerry
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It's just that nobody has ever seen the guy sober.
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There is only one religion worth fighting for
Well, there's also the Invisible Pink Unicorn, but I mean come on, how can she be invisible AND pink? It's just entirely unbelievable...
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I'm sending a team to your street, and we are going to burn up the stuff in your garbage can. And we plan on yelling alot, and we got signs buster! That's right.... Lots of signs. (Disclaimer to George Bush - this post is the result of my chuckling over the invisible pink Unicorn, and is totally fictional and light hearted in nature. There is no team. Please disregard, and remove the swat team you just put in my front yard.)
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"On February 14, 1983, Der Spiegel (a leading German magazine) carried an interview with one of the Phalangists who participated to the massacre. According to this person, Israeli soldiers fought along the Phalangists and shelled the camp to help them overcome the Palestinian resistance." "Sharon was directly responsible for the massacres." Sabra and Chatila's file was opened again in mid 2001 and Elie Hobeika who was supposed to testify in the court what really happened in those camps, was blasted into pieces by a car bomb. That bomb was either set by the Israeli's or the Syrians... we never knew... Quote:
As for the second paragraph, sorry I didn't understand what you are saying... can you elaborate more? Quote:
Convince me with one thing, HOW COME USA IS EXTENDING FREE WEAPONS TO ISRAEL WITH NOTHING IN RETURN? and pleaseeeeeeeee, don't tell me it is a tactical benefit !!! the Israelis are supernatural fellas to convince a great country such as USA to give them FREE stuff and matching YOUR current technologies... WAKE UP MAN, stop relying on BS news of CNN and BBC and start reading between the lines... We lived the Turks, we lived the French, we lived the Palestinians, We lived the Israelis and we lived the Syrians... we know how each and every one of them thinks. As for the Europeans colonial rules, PLEASE just recheck your info again. Do you remember that the French used to rule us? could I be lying about it? Don't think for a moment, than any country which is benefiting from her existence in another country, wishes to leave it. "Al Taef" agreement which was signed to end the Christian Civil war in 1990 states that Syria must get everything back in order before it leaves in a maximum of 2 years time. How long did it stay? 15 F*cking years!!!!!!! and how did it leave Lebanon?? You know... the French colonies faced a similar thing, with the difference that pressure was from the inside and not the outside. Quote:
The Druzes are minorities in the middle east. The Druze guy or girl are not told what is the basis of their religion until they reach a certain age (usually more than 45 ) so he stays without belief for a long time, that period which makes him get used to have NO GOD and in consequence they do not have a discipline criteria to rely on. When they reach that age, they become well known about their religion and in other terms, they gain the title "WISE CHEIKH"... when it is too late: they are used to one thing and they have to abide by another , which is very difficult for a guy who got used to stealing, cheating, beating... without any sense of guilt absent by lack of religious teachings from little ages. There is no Druz person I know that he didn't cheat to reach his objective. Plus they are a minority, so they must switch sides all the time to keep himslef inside the Lebanese game. Let me show you the Druze leader over here, he is the ugliest guy on earth, read about him, the facts are always not accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Jumblatt P.S: my hometown is in Chouf area of Lebanon, the place (Chouf) where the civil war ignited the most. My hometown (Mtolleh) is the only one who successfully killed 92 druzes while trying to enter it (the people from other towns just escaped without resistance, they saved their lives), on the other hand they killed 3 persons from us, two elderly, who refused to escape the town when they finally entered it (Druzes) and one 25 year old guy who was wounded, captured and murdered (like the murders that you used to see in Vietnam, when they let the prisoner sit on his knees and they put a round in his head ) So Weebitob, you may read all the info you can, watch all the news, they are all BS. They never tell you in reality what is happeneing, they just tell you what THEY want you to know. Do not take it as an insult, but I do not consider USA as the most powerful country in the world, rather Israel is for controlling USA . Do not take it as an insult, I love USA but what I am stating is pure facts. We can keep this discussion running on day and night and I have all the reasons in the world to defend Israel and go against the Palestinians, that if I want to give you a "heart" answer, but the "mind and logical and what is really happening" answer I tell you the Israelis are worse than even the Druzes
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