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Old 07-17-2005, 02:44 PM
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Dodge brings back Charger, Could SVX comeback?

Recently I noticed Dodge brought back thier Charger and boy it looks sweet. Too bad it probly can only go in a straight line, but I havent test drove it yet. Not to mention that the SVX would be a god compared to the Charger in the snow.
Anyway, I was thinking, could the SVX make it's return? I doubt it since the sales look terrible from 92-97 . I bet it would cost $40,000 now and come with a 300 hp engine like the WRX Sti if it did make a return today. Anyway I would probly beg for the new SVX and somehow get one.
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:37 PM
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Recently I noticed Dodge brought back thier Charger and boy it looks sweet. Too bad it probly can only go in a straight line, but I havent test drove it yet. Not to mention that the SVX would be a god compared to the Charger in the snow.
Anyway, I was thinking, could the SVX make it's return? I doubt it since the sales look terrible from 92-97 . I bet it would cost $40,000 now and come with a 300 hp engine like the WRX Sti if it did make a return today. Anyway I would probly beg for the new SVX and somehow get one.
For the SVX (or the next successor of the XT/SVX line) to keep true to its root, it would need to have cutting-edge Subaru technology, and the engine more than likely be fresh.

If they used the 2.5T in it, it just wouldn't be the same... I much rather see Subaru bring back the 3.3L with a larger displacement, say, 3.5L, variable valve timing, and perhaps twin turbos.

Also, the car would need to remain luxurious in nature.. Unlike the STi.
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:45 PM
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The charger was legendary.....unfortunatley we are the only people that see the SVX that way. Subaru see's the SVX as a failure....a flop...but what a cool flopper
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:26 PM
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The Muscle Cars of the mid to late 60s which sold in extreamly large numbers and who's names have recently reentered production are all considered classics. Basically, what we are seeing now is reengineered dream cars from the high school and college day's of the boomer generation. Automakers are doing this because the boomers are the generation that controls the majority of the wealth in our country now. Basically, Detroit is selling us dreams. Names like GTO,Cobra,Charger,Charger R/T and Hemi. All of these names hold a special meaning to male boomers especially. In fact, there is even talk that Dodge might bring back the Challenger if the Charger is a hit. Now if Chevrolet would only bring back the SS Chevelle and use some of the styling cues from the legendary 1970 LS-6.




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Old 07-17-2005, 06:45 PM
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:25 PM
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Return of the SVX?

Guess we'll have to see whether this ever makes production...



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Old 07-17-2005, 08:32 PM
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The Muscle Cars of the mid to late 60s which sold in extreamly large numbers and who's names have recently reentered production were all considered classics. Basically, what we are seeing now is reengineered dream cars from the high school and college day's of the boomer generation. Automakers are now doing this because the boomers are the generation that controls the majority of the wealth in our country.Basically Detroit is selling dreams. Names the GTO,Cobra,Charger,Charger R/T,Hemi. All these names hold a special meaning to boomers. In fact, there is even talk that Dodge might bring back the Challenger if the Charger is a hit. Now if Chevrolet would only bring back the SS Chevelle and use some of the styling cues from the legendary 1970 LS-6.




People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

they recently built a chevelle ss concept car off the new gto but gm has recently grounded the plans, but the chevelle and camaro were going to come back till that decision. but now they'll only be going ahead with the new gto due out in 2008 due for financial problems in gm. what a shame.
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:47 AM
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Nissan brought back the z and look what that did in final the years of sales here
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:18 AM
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Nissan brought back the z and look what that did in final the years of sales here
The Z was very popular back in the day. It might have fizzed out, but it was popular enough at one time to justify a second chance.



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Old 07-19-2005, 12:06 PM
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I think it all boils down to 2 things: Timing and Marketing.

When the SVX was first introduced, Subaru hadn't really built up enough reputation to easily justify a car in its price range. Also, they were pretty green, and perhaps not agressive enough in their marketing tactics.

The timing of the WRX (for US market) was such that it occured right after more people in their target audience had become highly interested in high-performance turbocharged AWD vehicles.. Before then, Civics were a dime a dozen (well, figure of speech regarding popularity, not price)... Now, I pass at least 8 different WRX's on my way to work every morning.

The car virtually sells itself, as it stands. Subaru has come a long ways in terms of their marketing abilities.

Even at the price premium, the STi has proven just as popular. It goes to show that Subaru has entered a phase where they can afford to build up on a platform and expect consumers to pay a price premium... They've developed a reputation founded on trust.

If they decided to bring a successor to the XT and SVX as a flagship car, on a limited (relatively speaking) production basis, I don't see why, today, it wouldn't be a success within their target expectations.

I personally think they've grown up enough to make it happen.
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The Z was very popular back in the day. It might have fizzed out, but it was popular enough at one time to justify a second chance.



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yea I know, I was just kinda thinking maybe no one would notice the 30 some years of history behind it. It was early, leave me alone
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:56 AM
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Recently I noticed Dodge brought back thier Charger and boy it looks sweet. Too bad it probly can only go in a straight line, but I havent test drove it yet. Not to mention that the SVX would be a god compared to the Charger in the snow.
Anyway, I was thinking, could the SVX make it's return? I doubt it since the sales look terrible from 92-97 . I bet it would cost $40,000 now and come with a 300 hp engine like the WRX Sti if it did make a return today. Anyway I would probly beg for the new SVX and somehow get one.
Careful, they may start offering it with an AWD option if they dont already. I believe it shares some of its parts with the Magnum Wagon. The Magnum is offered with AWD now, so it isnt a stretch for them to offer the Charger with it.
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An SVX comeback would be very exciting, but highly unlikely. Still it would be ko0l to see a concept SVX or something.



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Old 07-18-2005, 03:39 PM
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Recently I noticed Dodge brought back thier Charger and boy it looks sweet. Too bad it probly can only go in a straight line, but I havent test drove it yet.
Too bad, it seems that the new Charger can't do even that too well.

The new rebadged remakes of the classics lack the personality of their older brothers, and like SVXtra said, the car companies are capitalizing on selling dreams to the boomers, and little more. These new remakes aren't the muscle cars of an earlier era, but practical family cars with fanciful names to evoke dreams of the older muscle cars without the unrefined personality of those beasts. The new cars are family cars, with only the new GTO coming even close to the old mark (it's still far off, but it's the best of the worst).

It's funny seeing 300C's and Magnums and Hemi trucks lining up to race, as if that new Hemi engine meant their car could beat anything out there.
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:52 PM
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Too bad, it seems that the new Charger can't do even that too well.

The new rebadged remakes of the classics lack the personality of their older brothers, and like SVXtra said, the car companies are capitalizing on selling dreams to the boomers, and little more. These new remakes aren't the muscle cars of an earlier era, but practical family cars with fanciful names to evoke dreams of the older muscle cars without the unrefined personality of those beasts. The new cars are family cars, with only the new GTO coming even close to the old mark (it's still far off, but it's the best of the worst).

It's funny seeing 300C's and Magnums and Hemi trucks lining up to race, as if that new Hemi engine meant their car could beat anything out there.
I agree with that statement regarding Chrysler... I about had a heart attack when I saw the first picture of the new "Charger"... With 4 doors?! I mean, WTF?

However, Ford has done an excellent job of bringing back a car with well founded roots... The Shelby Cobra. Even the new Mustang and Mustang GT aren't really that bad of a retro representation, keeping true to their roots.

I'm no big GM fan, but I am praying they do produce a retro-inspired Camaro. Truly bring back the good ol' muscle car days... (Chrysler has deeply disappointed me).
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