Chevy "Forester" ---- SUbaru "Forester"

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Landshark

sometimes i pretend that i'm a super-hero - driving around getting into adventures with my Subaru.

ROFLMGAO!!!!

[Matthewmongan]

in you public speaking class, did you talk about your bias to your trans am being a ta owner. a word to the wise. giving a speach on something your familiar with is a waste of a class. anyone can speak ad nausium about a savant subject. oratory skill comes from being knowlegable while talking about something you know nothing about. read plato's gorgias. truse me, your arguments will be lass faliacious because of it.

[Chiketkd]

Originally Posted by shelfy

ROFLMGAO!!!!

That gets me everytime, Ken! ROFLMSAO

-Chike

[Matthewmongan]

Originally Posted by Chiketkd

That gets me everytime, Ken! ROFLMSAO

-Chike

your going to have to pm the translation from 133t talk to english i have no idea what that means.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

in you public speaking class, did you talk about your bias to your trans am being a ta owner. a word to the wise. giving a speach on something your familiar with is a waste of a class. anyone can speak ad nausium about a savant subject. oratory skill comes from being knowlegable while talking about something you know nothing about. read plato's gorgias. truse me, your arguments will be lass faliacious because of it.

stick to public speaking - the written word pwns you.

[NapaBavarian]

BONK! Hey shark, where does GM stash their computers? All the cars I have had stashed the computer in the passanger compartment, so you were probably opening the doors and leting it sit in the tidal flats for 6 hours while the salt water flooded the car.

On a side note, I envision shadow siting back laughing because he is really just effing with us, he loves subarus, but he likes to stir up $#!+ and he is better at it than all the rest of us put together

[NapaBavarian]

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

your going to have to pm the translation from 133t talk to english i have no idea what that means.

I usually stuff like that see what I get.

[NapaBavarian]

http://www.auditmypc.com/acronym/ROFLMFAO.asp

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by NapaBavarian

BONK! Hey shark, where does GM stash their computers? All the cars I have had stashed the computer in the passanger compartment, so you were probably opening the doors and leting it sit in the tidal flats for 6 hours while the salt water flooded the car.

i don't even remember - i try to blank that POS from my memory. i'm pretty sure it was in the engine bay - the best place for delicate electronics, of course. GM engineering = a pack of retards trying to hump a doorknob.

On a side note, I envision shadow siting back laughing because he is really just effing with us, he loves subarus, but he likes to stir up $#!+ and he is better at it than all the rest of us put together

i find it hard to take his stuff serious sometimes, but it sure is entertaining.

[Matthewmongan]

Originally Posted by Landshark

stick to public speaking - the written word pwns you.

my mom pwns you..... wait thats backwords. i was never good at grade school insults. apparently u are BECAUSE YOU INSIST ON COMMENTING ON MY LACK OF TYPING SKILL.

its all good though. im a savant, good at some bad at others. i can write a thesis like a fox but ask me to type a cogent sentence in a forum or aim and i come acrost like a red state voter.

[Matthewmongan]

Originally Posted by NapaBavarian

http://www.auditmypc.com/acronym/ROFLMFAO.asp

oh i got that part but what is the G about.

[NapaBavarian]

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

my mom pwns you..... wait thats backwords. i was never good at grade school insults. apparently u are BECAUSE YOU INSIST ON COMMENTING ON MY LACK OF TYPING SKILL.

I thought you just had better things to do than proofread a post meant for Mr Right

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

i can write a thesis like a fox .....

but could anybody understand it?

[Shadow248]

Originally Posted by Landshark

of course, because we are all fan boi's. in fact, in my spare time i go to GM message boards and fight for Subaru's honor and respect. i am a winnAr, and i don't really have any other hobbies. sometimes i pretend that i'm a super-hero - driving around getting into adventures with my Subaru.

I think the fact that you spend several hours everyday on this forum means you are in fact a "fan boi". As for the last part of your statement, I can definetly picture you doing exactly that

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

shadow, you contradict yourself oftin. you say cr is a FOR PROFIT organization and shouldnt be trusted. and then say its a NOT FOR PROFIT organization that accepts donations, thuse cant be trusted.

No, but sometimes I forget that I need to qualify every damn thing I say on this board. In the end, a given organization is either FOR PROFIT or NON PROFIT. This "NOT FOR PROFIT" bs was created for tax purposes, so a company can still make money but because they "didn't set out to make money", they can still be treated like a non-profit org. It's all bs. So when I see "not-for-profit" I interpret it as "for-profit" because they are still making money.

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

understand that every organization, news program, and joe on the street has a bias, their is no way around that.

Absolutely. But you would be right along with the first of the members of this board to show me a biased reviewer's "objective review" of a Subaru as proof that Subaru is reliable, faster, nicer...etc.

So without an un-biased evaluation to use, how do we rate cars? I say we use the least biased (or least bs-filled) organizations rankings. Thus the reason I use JD Power. It's the only organization recognized by the 36 major automakers worldwide as a fair testing organization.

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

you sat that computer failure dues to washing the engine bay and paint degradation due to infrequint washing is a consumer ended problem. i say nay, it is infact a factory problem. i have driven/owned manycars since i started driving none were new so i am familiar with hi mileage problems. my father is a machine when it comes to cars so everything he buys has a record of maintainence or he doesn't purchase. simply for the exception of a pontiac fiero that i bought of my own free will all cars i have had were in excelent condition. of the 4 subarus i have had i only had one problem with the lot and that was a tweeeked crank pully caused by deryliction of maintence. working at jiffylube i saw a 94 legacy with 560k come in without an oil filter. i would have never known if i hadn't checked the oil myself. i saw the same car come in three times again before i quit, every time it ran like a dream.

Don't even bother with the reliability stories. I sold my 1994 GTP (with the defective black paint), at 130k and I couldn't have been happier with it. Well except for the fact that the Honda DOHC motor in it cost so much to perform even routine maintenance on. But I had no notable problems, even with the paint. My dad sold his 1995 Yukon last year with 160k and the only thing he ever replaced was an alternator. Find me an import truck with that track record. Or my buddy and his dad...they are both outside sales reps for Shimano (bikes, not rods). They won't touch anything other than GM trucks. They've run two silverados, a suburban and a tahoe all to over 200,000 miles with nothing but routine maintenance and the occasional alternator. On the other hand, my aunt has owned two Subarus (Legacys) that she ditched before 50k because of all the money she had to dump into them. And don't even get me started on my mom's infiniti. Junk. Pretty junk, but junk.

So you see, for every good Subaru story you give me, I could give you 5 good GM stories and one bad import story. What does that accomplish?

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

so if someone is to have a computer fail because he washes his engine bay it is his fault. NO it is the builders fault for not producing a decent auto.

Ahh...here's that amazing liberal thinking again. Always the victim. Thanks for our terminally messed up world by the way.

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

lots of salt in maryland and no paint chippng on any subaru even the 80's loyale. the cavalier lost its paint after 6 months. I dont want to baby my ride, if it cant endure me it souldnt be sold.

My high school physics teacher had an '88 Subaru wagon (loyale i think), that thing had more rust than paint. It was just flaking off...sometimes when he drove it you could see flakes fly off. On the other hand, I know a girl who owns a 1985 Cavalier (260k), she wouldn't even know where to start if she had to wash her car. No paint problems whatsoever. So what?

Originally Posted by Matthewmongan

in you public speaking class, did you talk about your bias to your trans am being a ta owner. a word to the wise. giving a speach on something your familiar with is a waste of a class. anyone can speak ad nausium about a savant subject. oratory skill comes from being knowlegable while talking about something you know nothing about. read plato's gorgias. truse me, your arguments will be lass faliacious because of it.

And how many public speeches/presentations have you given? If I knew you had any clue what you were talking about (and by your typing skill, you really don't give the knowledgeable appearance), I might even finish reading that comment.

Originally Posted by NapaBavarian

BONK! Hey shark, where does GM stash their computers? All the cars I have had stashed the computer in the passanger compartment, so you were probably opening the doors and leting it sit in the tidal flats for 6 hours while the salt water flooded the car.

The majority of GM vehicles have both the ECM and BCM mounted externally. The ones that have the ECM mounted internally still have the ICM and coil pack(s) exposed. Water in any of the above could fry an entire computer.

Originally Posted by NapaBavarian

On a side note, I envision shadow siting back laughing because he is really just effing with us, he loves subarus, but he likes to stir up $#!+ and he is better at it than all the rest of us put together

You are partially right. At least this time. I don't hate subarus of course, but I don't automatically put down a car based on the badges it wears.

But everytime I get into a discussion such as this, I do find myself "sitting back and laughing". And just like Shark, I oftern insert little comments that I know will stir up some "$#!+".

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Chiketkd

That gets me everytime, Ken! ROFLMSAO

i can't help myself. when i throw the "G" in, i find something really funny.