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Old 01-06-2005, 12:17 PM
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It looks like they took the hood off of a Mustang and the gauges from an Audi.
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The interior is ugly. I never got into the red guage thing. Too 1980's Firebird. Cool blue or an indigo would be better. I think the Legacy GT looks better. If you could get the Suby for $29k I would take the Legacy. The AWD system in the Subaru is better then the wheel sensing type in the Mazda. A Legacy STi would be SWEET. The big downer for the Mazda, it's a ford. Yes we are Subaru *****s around these parts, but trying to be objective, I think the Legacy looks better. Of course a G35x sedan is better then both. Especially if you dip into the NISMO parts book.
Oh yes, Ford having a huge share in Mazda is a huge downer for the Mazdaspeed6. With it using the same AWD system as the Focus RS which is a homogenization of the current WRC winning vehicle for couple of years in a row. Which has its lineage from the all infamous Escort Cosworth, not to mention putting Ford on top of the manufacture's list, disgusting Ford. And using the same base engine too, which was ironically engineered by Mazda, shame on them. And too use a platform that now Ford is sharing off of, now that’s a new low.

Oh wait, isn't Subaru barrowing a certain GM platform for an up coming vehicle, only after in what some people may consider whoring out the WRX one? Nobody's perfect.

If it's not Subaru, it's crap.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:57 PM
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I like the overall look....not too fond of the headlights though. I feel like I am at a fancy restaurant looking at the 8 forks on the side of my plate wondering which one to use next.

I agree with the pricing though, for that kind of money I would have an STi.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:11 PM
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i like the Mazdaspeed6, but, like the S60R, all the power is needed to move its big fat arse. they are kinda heavy.

CURB WEIGHT: 3630 pounds (est.)
0 TO 62 MPH: 6.6 seconds (mfr.)

6.6 sec, IMHO just isn't really that fast, considering the Forester XT will do 5.3. for 30 large, i'll take an STi, too.

(or, of course, the GTP or WS6! )
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:45 PM
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Oh yes, Ford having a huge share in Mazda is a huge downer for the Mazdaspeed6. With it using the same AWD system as the Focus RS which is a homogenization of the current WRC winning vehicle for couple of years in a row. Which has its lineage from the all infamous Escort Cosworth, not to mention putting Ford on top of the manufacture's list, disgusting Ford. And using the same base engine too, which was ironically engineered by Mazda, shame on them. And too use a platform that now Ford is sharing off of, now that’s a new low.

Oh wait, isn't Subaru barrowing a certain GM platform for an up coming vehicle, only after in what some people may consider whoring out the WRX one? Nobody's perfect.

If it's not Subaru, it's crap.
Exactly what I was thinking. Some people have very narrow minds.
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Old 01-06-2005, 06:39 PM
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MazdaSpeed 6 Specs

MAZDASPEED6

Engine type 2.3L DOHC 16-valve Inline-4 with turbo
Horsepower, SAE net 274 @ 5500 rpm
Torque, SAE net 280 @ 3000 rpm
Redline 6700 rpm
Displacement (cubic inches) 137.9
Bore x stroke (inches) 3.44 x 3.70
Compression ratio 9.5:1
Fuel system Direct injection
Recommended fuel Premium unleaded
Minimum fuel requirement 91 octane (98 RON)
Valvetrain 4 valves per cylinder, mechanical lifters
Engine block Aluminum alloy
Cylinder heads Aluminum alloy
Emission control 3-way catalytic converter
Ignition system Full transistor breakerless electronic
Alternator 12V-110AH
Battery 55D23L
Starter 12V-1.4kw

Type All-Wheel Drive (AWD)
Transmissions 6-speed manual
Clutch type Single dry plate with diaphragm spring
Transmission ratios (:1) 1st 3.538
2nd 2.238
3rd 1.535
4th 1.171
5th 1.085
6th 0.853
Reverse 3.831
Final Drive 1st - 4th 3.611
5th, 6th, Rev. 3.095

Body type 5-passenger, monocoque unit 4-door sedan
Front suspension Independent, high-mount double wishbones, coil
springs, and stabilizer bar
Rear suspension Independent, E-type multi-link, coil springs, and
stabilizer bar
Shock absorbers Front Cylindrical, double-acting, twin tube
Rear Cylindrical, double-acting, mono tube
Steering type Rack-and-pinion
Power assist Engine-rpm sensitive; variable power-assist
Overall steering ratio 16.1:1
Steering wheel turns-to-Lock 2.6
Turning circle, curb-to-curb (feet) 36.8

Braking system Power assist; 4-wheel, 4-sensor, 3-channel Anti-Lock
Brake System with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
Brake discs Front Ventilated discs (12.6 x 1.0 inches)
Rear Solid discs (12.4 x 0.4 inches)
Parking brake Mechanical, hand-operated on rear wheels
Tires P215/45R18 93Y summer radials
Tire inflation pressure (front/rear) 37.7 psi
Wheels 7.0JJ x 18
Temporary spare tire T145/70D17
Temporary spare wheel 17 x 4T
EPA Mileage (City/Highway) 20/26

Crankcase (U.S. quarts) 6.8
Engine coolant (U.S. quarts) 8.5
Fuel tank capacity (gallons) 15.9
EPA Passenger Volume (cubic feet) 96.1
EPA Cargo Volume 33.7
(cubic feet) Seats folded 60.5
EPA Total Volume (cubic feet) 131.7
EPA Vehicle Size Category Compact car

Wheelbase 105.3
Track: (front & rear) 60.6
Length 186.8
Width 70.1
Height 56.3
Minimum ground clearance, laden 4.86
Weight distribution, % front:rear 60:40
Curb weight (Federal spec, lbs.) 3589
GVWR (lbs.) Total 4552
Front 2449
Rear 2103
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Old 01-06-2005, 06:45 PM
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i like the Mazdaspeed6, but, like the S60R, all the power is needed to move its big fat arse. they are kinda heavy.

CURB WEIGHT: 3630 pounds (est.)
0 TO 62 MPH: 6.6 seconds (mfr.)

6.6 sec, IMHO just isn't really that fast, considering the Forester XT will do 5.3. for 30 large, i'll take an STi, too.

(or, of course, the GTP or WS6! )
Alan,

You of all people should know that the mfr's estimates mean nothing. Porsche is also famous for under-rating their cars performance potential.

With that much power in a 3600lb vehicle, sub 6 sec 0-60 times will be the very achievable (maybe even mid 5's).

Besides, something tells me the Hp rating may be a bit low - with a 9.5:1 compression ratio and 15.6 psi of boost - I bet the car is making closer to 300hp at the crank.

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Old 01-06-2005, 06:51 PM
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Curb weight (Federal spec, lbs.) 3589
GVWR (lbs.)
Holy **** that thing weighs more than the SVX....
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:01 PM
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I must say that the entire Mazda line has improved greatly in the last few years, in terms of performance, quality, re-sale value, etc.
That's absolutely true. But there are still much nicer equipped cars out there that are as reliable, if not even more reliable. Geez you can get just about the exact same car from Ford (Taurus) for $4000 less. Granted it's ugly, and boring, and a piece of junk. But, same engine, same platform...etc.

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The interior is ugly. I never got into the red guage thing. Too 1980's Firebird. Cool blue or an indigo would be better.
HAHA...my WS6 has red guages.

I am the complete opposite of you in this area...I think the red looks awesome, and the indigo is too 1980's Tron-like. If you want Indiglo get a Timex. Plus, every Fast & F***ing Stupid wannabe has indigo guages.

Though just like you, I would take a G35 coupe over any of the above mentioned cars. Even the GTP.

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Oh yes, Ford having a huge share in Mazda is a huge downer for the Mazdaspeed6. With it using the same AWD system as the Focus RS which is a homogenization of the current WRC winning vehicle for couple of years in a row. Which has its lineage from the all infamous Escort Cosworth, not to mention putting Ford on top of the manufacture's list, disgusting Ford. And using the same base engine too, which was ironically engineered by Mazda, shame on them. And too use a platform that now Ford is sharing off of, now that’s a new low.
I don't get it...is this sarcasm?

Ford's parts on any car other than a Ford is unfortunate. They need to worry about making decent cars under their own badge...before screwing up other companies' offerings as well. One of the biggest things I have against the 6 is that stupid Duratec V6.

I do agree with one part in your statement though, the general population of this site seems to believe that Subaru is the only company that can make a worthwhile car. It's is a weird place, this "SVX Network". The rules of the regular world don't seem to apply here. It's one thing to love a particular car (I do) but quite another to hate every other car out there. That's going a bit far.
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:45 PM
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Ford has a turbo AWD taurus?
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Oh yes, Ford having a huge share in Mazda is a huge downer for the Mazdaspeed6. With it using the same AWD system as the Focus RS which is a homogenization of the current WRC winning vehicle for couple of years in a row. Which has its lineage from the all infamous Escort Cosworth, not to mention putting Ford on top of the manufacture's list, disgusting Ford. And using the same base engine too, which was ironically engineered by Mazda, shame on them. And too use a platform that now Ford is sharing off of, now that’s a new low.
I couldn't agree more! Everything on the MazdaSpeed 6 from the awd system, to the high output 2.3L turbo-charged engine will be top-of-the-line!

-Chike

P.S. And despite what some people on here think, 27.9K for a 280+hp awd sedan is a darn good deal. The Legacy 2.5GT is in the same price range and has 30hp less. The Infiniti is nice, but a bit too refined for my tastes - this is the same reason why I'm leaning away from the Volvo S60R.
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:54 PM
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Ford has a turbo AWD taurus?
No, Weebitob mentioned the awd Focus RS. It has a 220hp turbo'd 2.0L inline 4, and has had a very successful run in the WRC.





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Ok I feel that I must clarify. I am speaking only of the Mazda 6s. I do not have any experience with the Mazdaspeed version. I am not comparing it to other cars...only the 6s. The automatic version of the 6s that mandi and I priced was $28,650. So I get the feeling that they may be understating the price for the Mazdaspeed car...if not, then there's virtually no reason to not get the mazdaspeed version over the 6s.
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Ok I feel that I must clarify. I am speaking only of the Mazda 6s. I do not have any experience with the Mazdaspeed version. I am not comparing it to other cars...only the 6s. The automatic version of the 6s that mandi and I priced was $28,650. So I get the feeling that they may be understating the price for the Mazdaspeed car...if not, then there's virtually no reason to not get the mazdaspeed version over the 6s.
A friend of mine recently bought a new auto 6s sport sedan for $24k and some change.
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svx replacement?
B11s.

B9 (Scrambler) is the hybrid coupe.

By replacement he means next expectant FHI flagship.
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