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Old 09-01-2003, 04:09 PM
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Help with bearing packing!

Lee suggested I post this here, rather than in New member intro.
I am a backyard mechanic (trying to do a man's job!). I have in my hand a new rear wheel bearing, identical to the one I took out of my ailing noisy passenger side (NTN 4T-CRI-08A02).
The bearing has a width of about 1 7/8 inch, and on both sides, tapered rollers in a black retainer can be seen. The roller part measures 9/16 in width, so there is left a space of 3/4 in.
I cleaned the cosmolene packing grease away, and the bearing is ready for greasing.
The question is: regardless of how the greasing is done (by hand, or with a packing tool), should the 3/4 in cylinder within the bearing without rollers be filled with grease also? I can measure the approximate grease volume to be used, but cannot see the grease inside. If the space is filled, would the heat expansion bust the seals? If there is too little grease, would air traps hinder lubrication? Comments and/or suggestions are much appreciated!!!
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Old 09-01-2003, 05:55 PM
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Hi Wolf33h
Well that is a very good question.
I have been thinking the same thing.
How much of that cavity gets filled up?
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Old 09-02-2003, 08:39 PM
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Lightbulb Re: Help with bearing packing

Lee's advice is: The space between the races gets greased!
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Old 09-02-2003, 10:06 PM
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Re: Re: Help with bearing packing

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Lee's advice is: The space between the races gets greased!
just so everybody understands, I'm a backyard mechanic with little common sense but a love of, dare I say it, quirky vehicles (a Norton Commando & my SVX make quite a pair for people wondering about my sanity - why not just drive an Accord or Camry, huh?).

This disclaimer is being made not because a lawyer advises, but because I would be a bit devastated if my words misled the good people of this forum.

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Old 09-03-2003, 05:27 AM
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Smile Lee's disclaimer

OK Lee, disclaimer acknowledged and advice appreciated! If this job is botched up, I'll blame the torque wrench or the grease....Is Beav the author of the How To with the HubTamer, the man with few words and infinite wisdom?
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Old 09-03-2003, 09:22 AM
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I wondered about filling the hub cavity with grease also. I did some reading at some bearing websites, and I came up with the conclusion that there should be enough to coat the interior of the hub and enough around the bearing. Beyond that, its apparently not necessary.

http://www.timken.com/products/bearings/index.asp

If you look in the "tech tips" section, you'll see a guide to packing bearings.
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Old 09-06-2003, 03:06 PM
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Hi Mychailo:
Thanks for the input! (My PC has been giving me problems). Actually, it is not the hub cavity, where the half shaft goes, but the space between the bearing surfaces that I am concerned with. Luckily, when the bearing unit was out of the knuckle, I was able to observe that it is composed of two inward tapered bearing units (where the twenty odd roller units are in a black plastic retainer) separated by an empty spacer about an inch wide. Perusing among other sites you pointed me to (Timken), NTNAmerica, NSK..., I read that the bearing housing should not be greased more than 1/2 to 2/3 because the grease churning will generate more heat! So, not knowing any better, I would compromise by making sure the bearing areas on both sides be covered, with some extra grease in between, unseen of course. After all, we don't want the rollers to run dry, and not hindered by extra friction either...Sorry to be long winded, but one has to think it outloud. I have just received my order from Kerven (Thanks, Mike), but miss the oil seals...so I order the bearing too! Alas, when retired, one has lots of time, but no more patience!
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