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Old 02-22-2012, 01:14 PM
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Maintainance and engine shape up

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The exterior and interior I can handle. However, the timing belt should be changed this year seeing it happened in 2007. I know the answers are to be found around the forum but I'm overloaded with a wealth of information and need short lists, sorry.

* When changing the timing belt, what should I have the mechanic do at the same time? The waterpump perhaps and... ?

* If I want the engine to be in tip top shape and yield the promised power, what should I consider in terms of parts change, etc?

* Should something else be replaced / inspected?

The AWD was repaired in december, the climate is so cold here I doubt a 96 transmission needs additional cooling?

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Old 02-22-2012, 01:59 PM
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Water pump - YES YES YES (mine siezed 2 weeks later - subaru paid for another new timing belt & labour, as they had not suggested doing it at initial time).
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:04 PM
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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

I just did a timing belt and water pump on my recently acquired '92 with 143K on the clock. No signs that either needed to be done. The main reason for me getting into the timing case was oil leaks-- I replaced both cam seals, intake cam plugs, oil pump (crank) seal, and resealed the oil pump to the block with new o-ring. I also replaced all the idler pulleys while in there with new ones (I went with the PCI timing belt kit that included all 4 idlers plus tensioner pulley).

I would personally recommend all of these be accomplished with a timing belt change, because you've already done (or paid for) all the labor to get in there-- best to do it once.
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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

Excellent, excellent. Did you by occasion compile a parts list? I'm very concerned with leaks.
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Excellent, excellent. Did you by occasion compile a parts list? I'm very concerned with leaks.
I didn't compile one with part numbers, but here's the list:

1x PCI timing belt kit (includes 4 idlers and 1 tensioner pulley, from ebay)
2x Cam seals (OEM Subaru)
1x Oil Pump Seal (OEM Subaru)
2x Intake cam plugs (OEM Subaru)
1x Water Pump (OEM Subaru)
2x right angle water bypass hoses connecting to water pump (OEM Subaru)
1x Oil pump o-ring (one that fit from a generic universal kit)
1x Thermostat (OEM Subaru)
1x Thermostat gasket (OEM Subaru)
Permatex ultra black silicone (to seal oil pump to block).

Very Optional (but I replaced these with new OEM Subaru because I'm weird):
Both rear timing covers (I'm sure yours will break upon removal of front covers)
All timing cover gaskets (I think there were 4 total, one for each of the rear covers and two on the center front cover)
Upper and lower radiator hoses (since coolant was drained to remove radiator for access anyway...)

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Old 02-22-2012, 02:26 PM
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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

Wow, this is golden!

Anything else in general I should do? The car's been through all services and has fairly new spark plugs, rear bearings and rotors changed a few years ago.
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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

Check out this list in the How-To Documents

http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/atta...1&d=1271140259

Save it for reference.

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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

Hard to say - does the car have 20k miles or 200k?
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Hard to say - does the car have 20k miles or 200k?
He said it was 113,000km, or about 82,642 miles


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Old 02-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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Re: Maintainance and engine shape up

Don't forget the gaskets that go around each bolt in the valve cover to keep the oil in.

13271AA051 Washer Rocker Cover

$2.84 each. I can't remember if you need 16 or 20. It's okay to reuse the bolts.


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Thanks a bunch, svxcess!
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dont forget the gaskets that go around each bolt in the valve cover to keep the oil in.

13271AA051 Washer Rocker Cover

$2.84 each. I can't remember if you need 16 or 20. It's okay to reuse the bolts.


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You need 20, but near as I can tell he's talking about timing belt, not valve covers? The above wouldn't apply to timing belt change.

That said, I did valve cover gaskets too, and this is definitely must-heed advice for that job.
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You need 20, but near as I can tell he's talking about timing belt, not valve covers. The above wouldn't apply to timing belt change.

That said, I did valve cover gaskets too, and this is definitely must-heed advice for that job.

I only mentioned this because he was concerned with leaks and just ordering the valve cover gaskets alone would not be sufficient. I thought it was 20, but subaruparts says you only need 16.


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if you have the belt and valve covers off and are concerned about power it would be an easy time to change your cams. http://ecutune.com/svx_camshafts.htm
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if you have the belt and valve covers off and are concerned about power it would be an easy time to change your cams. http://ecutune.com/svx_camshafts.htm
LAN doesn't stock those anymore. "NCA" = not currently available. :/
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