The greatest horror...

[Weebitob]

And for anyone who wants to contribute and take a true stand on the topic at hand can go here.

[Mr. Pockets]

Originally Posted by Weebitob

But when the facts are there that because of the genetic makeup an animal will most likely react completely different to a drug than any human, there is really no other reason those scientists should conduct it aside from "just because" or they would just like to know.

You really don't know what you're talking about. I don't know how else to say it. I mean, if you really think that animal experiments are done even though they have little to no value and can't answer important questions, then what can I possibly say in response?

In that case, I'm happy to drop the discussion if you are.

[Mr. Pockets]

Originally Posted by Landshark

I love that one. Also favorite: a bumper sticker I saw once that read 'if we're not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?'

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets

I love that one.

the toucan cracks me up - i don't know why.

Also favorite: a bumper sticker I saw once that read 'if we're not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?'

why do people have canine teeth - for eating nuts and berries?

[Weebitob]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets

You really don't know what you're talking about. I don't know how else to say it. I mean, if you really think that animal experiments are done even though they have little to no value and can't answer important questions, then what can I possibly say in response?

In that case, I'm happy to drop the discussion if you are.

So then indulge me on what I don't know, unless you somehow think I am undeserving to learn your profound truth. I am not saying animal experiments have no value, I am not even saying all considered cruel. In fact, if they follow the basic principles of research of making a theory, researching on it in order to affirm a hypothesis and then carry out the research in a controlled or sometimes as well as uncontrolled enviroment thus finding a conclusion most pointless research can be avoided. But saying that all research is done in the up most professional way is about as ignorant as saying all is not.

It is sort of funny how forced me to change my position on this topic, was it intentional? Did you even watch the video, if not perhaps you should considering it is good to aware of what exactly is the subject at hand in order to carry out a discussion on it and while you are at it read my first post in its entirety too.

I find it also funny that most people consider eating insects as not eating meat.

[Mr. Pockets]

I'm not forcing you to change your position at all. You said in an earlier post that "...animal experimenting has virtually no merit in science today." I asked you to back this up, and instead you posted another opinion that contrasted sharply with your original comment.

No, I have not watched the video, and I already stated as much. But we're not discussing the video - neither of us has referred directly to it. I took issue with your above quote and asked you to back it up. If you're claiming the video as supporting info, then I'm afraid I'll have to wait until after work to see it - as I already explained.

[dwd1985]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets

I love that one. Also favorite: a bumper sticker I saw once that read 'if we're not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?'

If were not supposed to eat meat, why are animals so delicious?

[SubaSteevo]

After watching the whole video, I can say that the image I found most disturbing was the fox being skinned alive for its fur

[b3lha]

The video wouldn't play on my laptop, so I thought I would contribute this instead:

Originally Posted by Landshark

I used to eat lots of meat: Steaks, burgers, sausages, bacon, ham, fried chicken, lamb kebabs. I even used to go fishing and kill and eat the ones I caught. Could never bring myself to eat McDonalds though (I hear it's better in America). I couldn't imagine eating a meal without meat. I loved it.

When I met Belha, she showed me what proper vegetarian food is like. I don't mean fake meat, soya protein or veggie burgers - that horrid stuff is made by the meat industry as a disincentive.

I mean really good, tasty, wholesome vegetarian food, like Belha's people in India have been eating for centuries. Spicy vegetable curries with flat breads and lentil curries with rice. There is a huge variety of such dishes, it's part of their culture.

Since becoming vegetarian, I enjoy my food more than I ever did before and I'm fitter and healthier because of it.

/threadhijack

[Electrophil]

Originally Posted by b3lha

The video wouldn't play on my laptop, so I thought I would contribute this instead:



I used to eat lots of meat: Steaks, burgers, sausages, bacon, ham, fried chicken, lamb kebabs. I even used to go fishing and kill and eat the ones I caught. Could never bring myself to eat McDonalds though (I hear it's better in America). I couldn't imagine eating a meal without meat. I loved it.

When I met Belha, she showed me what proper vegetarian food is like. I don't mean fake meat, soya protein or veggie burgers - that horrid stuff is made by the meat industry as a disincentive.

I mean really good, tasty, wholesome vegetarian food, like Belha's people in India have been eating for centuries. Spicy vegetable curries with flat breads and lentil curries with rice. There is a huge variety of such dishes, it's part of their culture.

Since becoming vegetarian, I enjoy my food more than I ever did before and I'm fitter and healthier because of it.

/threadhijack

Which brings us right back to:

[NikFu S.]

Originally Posted by Landshark

why do people have canine teeth - for eating nuts and berries?

I just realized I don't use mine.
I'm also getting lotsa deja vu like we've done this thread before...

Originally Posted by SubaSteevo

After watching the whole video, I can say that the image I found most disturbing was the fox being skinned alive for its fur

THAT WILL HAUNT ME FOREVER. D:
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Still hungry for meat. I'm more concerned with the golden rule being applied. I don't want to die a slow agonizing death, but quick, possibly explosive one.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Electrophil

Which brings us right back to:

ROFL at the toucan! he must be delicious! LOL!!!



now i have to eat 6 animals because of Phil and Belha. i may have to do more exercise.

[b3lha]

Originally Posted by Landshark

ROFL at the toucan! he must be delicious! LOL!!!
now i have to eat 6 animals because of Phil and Belha. i may have to do more exercise.

Today I decided not to eat an elephant and Bel decided not to eat a rhino. Hope you're feeling hungry.

[Suby Fan]

Originally Posted by NikFu S.

Nice story but birds do not enslave a species, denying it of any kind of pleasant life, however short-lived.
They also do not have the capacity or any means whatsoever to build a device solely for the destruction and eventually mass consumation by other members of it's flock.
Another side-effect of such a puny brain is the incapacity for evil deeds, such as intentional, cold-blooded torture and trophy killing.

Mushrooms for all we know are not sentient.

if you have ever been on a dairy farm cattle farm or any other kind of non corprate farm you would know that alot of the images on the video are isolated cases

[immortal_suby]

Originally Posted by Landshark

I bought that shirt for my buddy last christmas.
Harrrrrr!!!!!
maddox rules.
If you ever see a 5 foot gorilla built kraut in the pittsburgh area sporting it say hey to him for me.