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Old 12-06-2001, 05:21 PM
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Manual buttom? What is that?

SVX FAQ: "The only thing the manual button seems to do is to stop the transmission from automatically downshifting from 2nd to 1st gear. "

Can someone explain that for me? And is that the only function? What's the different between on and off manual mode as in the hwy cruising 60+mph?
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Old 12-06-2001, 07:45 PM
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Re: Manual buttom? What is that?

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SVX FAQ: "The only thing the manual button seems to do is to stop the transmission from automatically downshifting from 2nd to 1st gear. "

Can someone explain that for me? And is that the only function? What's the different between on and off manual mode as in the hwy cruising 60+mph?
Ah.. good old manual button.

The usage of the button is to hold the shift point.

For example,

You are at the traffic light. You want to manually hold on the first gear till you reach 6000 RPM instead of 3000 that the car normally shifts at. To accomplish that, you press the manual button -- manual light comes on -- shift car into 1. Press gas till you hit 6000 on the RPM. Then shift up into 2 and so on and so fourth. You can also downshift manually into 3rd -- I don't know why anyone would do that since it will screw up the tranny bad and the SVX already comes with weak trannies.

Hope it helps... anyone else? Randy, am i correct?

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Old 12-06-2001, 08:02 PM
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Well, to paraphrase page 6-11 of the official '92 SVX Manual, "Manual" is not intended to turn the car into a stick shift, although some of you may have "creative" ways to do this. No, "Manual" is simply a way to lock the tranny into second & third gears, in order to deal with something called snow & ice. Nor does "Manual" have anything to do with the guy trimming your hedges. To those that HAVE found a way to make a "Huckmobile" out of the tranny, I believe "Manual" will apply to the labor required to scrape the eventual grenaded tranny-bits off the road.
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Well, to paraphrase page 6-11 of the official '92 SVX Manual, "Manual" is not intended to turn the car into a stick shift, although some of you may have "creative" ways to do this. No, "Manual" is simply a way to lock the tranny into second & third gears, in order to deal with something called snow & ice. Nor does "Manual" have anything to do with the guy trimming your hedges. To those that HAVE found a way to make a "Huckmobile" out of the tranny, I believe "Manual" will apply to the labor required to scrape the eventual grenaded tranny-bits off the road.
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Right you are, Ron. In other words, the "Manual" button locks out 1st gear, allowing you to take off in 2nd to avoid wheel spin on take-off on snowy or extremely wet roads.
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I had a look at an SVX some time ago where the dealer (an imbecile by the way) talked arrant nonsense about the SVX and then on the test drive, proceeded to show me how it could be driven in manual form, "Like the Ferrari's mate".

As I got out of the car, I bade a quiet farewell to the transmission and wished the car luck in the future

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My policy is to avoid all use of Manual mode, except for the occasions mentioned. If you're starting from a dead stop on a very slick road, then use it. Otherwise, keep your fingers off the button.
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Old 12-07-2001, 07:52 AM
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Right you are, Ron. In other words, the "Manual" button locks out 1st gear, allowing you to take off in 2nd to avoid wheel spin on take-off on snowy or extremely wet roads.
I'm sorry, I have to chime in. Maybe mine is 'different' from everyone elses, but when I have it in "Manual " mode in 1st gear, it is in 1st. I can take it through every gear in "Manual". Maybe when they were manufacturing the cars they made a change to the computer . But when mine is in 1st in "Manual", it is in 1st. Granted, it's probably destructive to the tranny and isn't recomended, but, well you get the picture.
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I'm sorry, I have to chime in. Maybe mine is 'different' from everyone elses, but when I have it in "Manual " mode in 1st gear, it is in 1st. I can take it through every gear in "Manual". Maybe when they were manufacturing the cars they made a change to the computer . But when mine is in 1st in "Manual", it is in 1st. Granted, it's probably destructive to the tranny and isn't recomended, but, well you get the picture.
If you push the manual button and you can still take off in first gear, then, I'm afraid your Manual button is faulty, unless, of course, you drop it "Manually" into first, which defeats the purpose of the Manual button. You can go through the gears "manually" with the shift lever with or without the manual button being pushed in. And, no, it isn't recommended -- that's why they're called "Automatics."
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Old 12-07-2001, 11:53 AM
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If you push the manual button and you can still take off in first gear, then, I'm afraid your Manual button is faulty, unless, of course, you drop it "Manually" into first, which defeats the purpose of the Manual button. You can go through the gears "manually" with the shift lever with or without the manual button being pushed in. And, no, it isn't recommended -- that's why they're called "Automatics."
Well, then it's faulty, or, the prievious owner hacked it somehow.
BTW, where did you get your cow catcher? I almost had a need for one last night.
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This is getting confusing. My understanding is this...

If the manual button is NOT pressed:

Stick in 1: Car uses 1 only
Stick in 2: Car uses 1 and 2
Stick in 3: Car uses 1, 2 and 3
Stick in D: Car uses 1, 2, 3 and D.

However if the manual button IS pressed:

Stick in 1: Car uses 1 only
Stick in 2: Car uses 2 only
Stick in 3: Car uses 2 and 3
Stick in D: Car uses 1, 2, 3 and D.

Also, power mode does not come on when manual button is pressed. (If I have the power button pressed, the power light comes on. But then it goes out when I press the manual button and comes on again when I unpress it)

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Well, then it's faulty, or, the prievious owner hacked it somehow.
BTW, where did you get your cow catcher? I almost had a need for one last night.
The cow catcher is a custom job, created from a piece of I-beam and teeth from an old "drop arm" mowing machine. If'n you ship me the materials, I could weld you one up real nice like.

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Old 12-07-2001, 11:07 PM
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You have the power mode button?? How come? Is it because you have a UK SVX?
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This is getting confusing. My understanding is this...

If the manual button is NOT pressed:

Stick in 1: Car uses 1 only
Stick in 2: Car uses 1 and 2
Stick in 3: Car uses 1, 2 and 3
Stick in D: Car uses 1, 2, 3 and D.

However if the manual button IS pressed:

Stick in 1: Car uses 1 only
Stick in 2: Car uses 2 only
Stick in 3: Car uses 2 and 3
Stick in D: Car uses 1, 2, 3 and D.

Also, power mode does not come on when manual button is pressed. (If I have the power button pressed, the power light comes on. But then it goes out when I press the manual button and comes on again when I unpress it)

Phil.
249SVX, maybe you can try in b3lha's method, if your "manual" has any effect.

b3lha, how many units of SVX sold in UK? do you guys there have any like tranny probs & etc that we have?
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If you push the manual button and you can still take off in first gear, then, I'm afraid your Manual button is faulty, .....
And, no, it isn't recommended -- that's why they're called "Automatics."
yup, Randy, we're automatics' except huck's

say, if the 'button' is really faulty, how to track the problem & fix?

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b3lha,
You have the power mode button?? How come? Is it because you have a UK SVX?
We have a Japanese SVX (Alcyone Type L). A lot of UK dealers buy cheap used cars from Japan and import them to the UK where they can sell them for a tidy profit.

As far as I know, all Alcyone's have a power mode button. UK SVX's on the other hand are the opposite. They are permanently in power mode unless you press the "economy mode" button.

I don't think 249SVX's manual button is broken. He says:
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when I have it in "Manual" Mode in 1st gear, it is in 1st.
I think he is correct: If the stick is in position 1, the car will only use 1st gear regardless of the Manual button.

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b3lha, how many units of SVX sold in UK? do you guys there have any like tranny probs & etc that we have?
Jamsvx did some research on the numbers sold in the UK. I think the figure came out at 259. I can confirm that UK and Japanese SVXs suffer all the same problems as the US models. Tranny, Wheel Bearings, Taillight Condensation etc.

Phil.

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