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But then, I forget so soon. Its just a "family car" with a lot of HP. That means its not respectable at all.
This is what I have been trying to say all along, but some people insist that you just can't criticize the STI. You can criticize any car as we have shown in this argument. I have said TIME AND TIME AGAIN there is nothing wrong with the STI, if you are looking for a people carrier with some power. That's great. It looks awesome, handles well and has plenty of power. But I bet even it's creators will tell you it's not meant to compete with all out sports cars. That's my point. No matter how much power you put into it, it's not a true sports car. For instance...look at Bentleys and the like. Most of them are as fast as any Ferrari. Do you see R&T doing Ferrari vs Bentley shootouts? Never. That's ridiculous cause the cars are built with two different purposes. Same here. The STI is a pumped up economy car, the factory Camaro is just the starting point for an all out road warrior. Different? Yes. Some of you look at the STI as an all-out sports car. So let's just agree to disagree. I have alot of respect for those who participated in this argument because with very few exceptions you all conducted yourselves like true enthusiasts. I hope i did the same. Thanks for the STI lesson. I learned alot during this "adventure", and that is my primary goal when i conduct such a discussion. |
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The STi is a sports sedan and a kick-@$$ good one. Still not a sports car though. Trucks have solid axle rears, sportscars have independent rears.
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I have followed this thread with great intress, but ...... there is one thing that don't understand (well sort of..) -Theese "Camaros" .....??? what the heck are those?? I have understood that they cannot be the same cars sold in the rest of the world, because they are no more sportscars then a -54 Hudson, but then how do they look like, theese American Camaros?? .... like a Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Alfa Romeo, BMW, ..... or WHAT ..????? I also cannot resist to (again) publish a tiny little thing about our own humble "house" tuner ....I mean, consider this statement made by someone not long ago ... Quote:
well..ok.....here it comes, street legal and all, but 5-cyl ... http://www.supercars.net/garages/CitroenSM/8v2.html (I really don't know why the link says "Citroen" .. ) http://www.dahlbackracing.se/english/main.asp http://gear.ign.com/articles/357/357116p1.html Ooh, yeah, sorry almost forgot,My movies -And don't forget to send some pics on this secret "American" Camaro (funny to put such a name on this car, I mean, the other worlds Camaro handles no better than a tow-truck, and who wants to be associated with THAT??) CYA .... Last edited by Sonar; 12-17-2003 at 02:07 PM. |
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The 1st gen neons weigh about 2400 lbs. I don't know about the 2nd gens, they're all crap. - Rob |
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The Camaro is a live axle dinosaur that has been tune to just about it's limit.
Ever hear the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? A live axle setup is just about as sports car as you can get. It's light, cheap, rock-solid (the rear in the camaro can handle 500hp from the factory), and also conducts power more efficiently than any other setup there is. The 390hp Cobra has an independent rear and gets smoked by the 345hp live axle Trans Am. Nuff said. The last part of that statement makes me wonder if you know anything about any V8 engine. The factory Camaro SS has a 325hp LS-1 that is well capable of turning over 600hp without any mods to the lower end of the engine. This engine has won more awards than honda's entire line. Bet you didn't know that. Yeah tuned to it's limit. The Corvette is an all-out road warrior and a true sports car. Word. In fact, in the terms we are speaking, the Corvette could be referred to as God. Even the slow in straight line 2.5 rs is a nice performing auto. Did I say it wasn't? Should i bring up the 2.8 camaros of the past? Why not? They were at least sports cars. Albeit underpowered and overweight, they nonetheless weren't trying to be something the weren't. dude - I was poking fun for most of this but you are certifiably crazy if you think a camaro handles better at speed than an svx. Where did I say that? Someone was talking about creaking and rattling in the Camaro. One of my neighbors has two 1987 Trans Ams (on GTA and one GT), both are rock solid compared to any of the three SVXes i've ridden in (not to mention the 5th gen T/A's even ride BETTER than the X). However, I said nothing about handling. |
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Lost Cause.
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PEANUTS....GET YER PEANUTS.....
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my SVX is fastAr now.......
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everyone knows we're all lesbians.
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Alan 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 1997 SVX LSi (Ebony) SOLD! 2005 Legacy GT (Silver) [Cobb Stg 2+] SOLD! 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 2005 Forester XT Premium (Crystal Gray Metallic) SOLD! 2008 Lancer Evolution X MR (Apex Silver) [Cobb Stg 1+] 2015 Outlander Sport 2.4GT AWD (Mercury Gray) 2013 G37xS (Obsidian Black) |
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-Talking about FAST .... check this out, it's really awesome !
http://media.car-videos.com/videos/f...0_vs_A160.mpeg
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my SVX is fastAr now.......
Now that is creative. Funny too. |
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everyone knows we're all lesbians.
That just made me think. To tell you the truth, I see more lesbian women driving 3rd gen (80's) camaros than mullet wearers. Is that better or worse? |
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