wow.... this is a saturn?

[Shadow248]

Originally posted by Mr. Pockets
There are probably a number of things 'I didn't think of' - there's no reason to be rude about it. As I said, I didn't know the conditions, and I still don't.

Could someone please invent a way to convey tone on these forums? There was absolutely no rude intent in my comment. I meant everything I said in a completely not rude or mocking way. Sorry it came across differently than I intended.

Originally posted by Landshark
i hear Ukranian cars can run without any oil at all.

Ukranian cars run?

[immortal_suby]

Originally posted by Shadow248
Could someone please invent a way to convey tone on these forums?

[Andy]

Originally posted by immortal_suby

[Chiketkd]

Here's an article reviewing the new Ion Redline: SCC Review

The editors were real luke warmtowards the car - liked the seats and the 197hp at the wheels,but pretty much hated everything else!

-Chike

[Sonar]

Sooo....Mercedes are bad cars eeh?

THAT WAS THE MOST STUPID THING I HEARD THIS YEAR ...

That statement HAS to come from a NON-owner ...

Just for fun, I'll give you my example:

The most reliable car I EVER had was a 190D -85 that had 180k Km on it when I bought it.
Because it was a MB it was considered "just broke in", so obviously NOTHING was touched on the car.

I drove another 260k Km with it ....with NO REPAIRS whatsoever!
That poor car hardly got it's oil changed (50-80k Km between!! and the cheapest quailty).

To sum up, the ONLY thing I repaired on 260k Km was to install a new alternator belt !!!!!!

I according to the previous owner, he did NOTHING!

Now, this is not unusual on MB's, not even rated as GOOD among MB owners ........ and just about EVERY taxi in Sweden are MB's ....wonder why.....must be the colors .....

BTW, I sold the 190 to a friend for about 2 years ago ...a he has put another 50k Km on it ....and...NO REPAIRS....


Is that a quailty car or what ....?


/Sonny

[Shadow248]

Originally posted by Sonar
Sooo....Mercedes are bad cars eeh?

THAT WAS THE MOST STUPID THING I HEARD THIS YEAR ...

That statement HAS to come from a NON-owner ...

Just for fun, I'll give you my example:

The most reliable car I EVER had was a 190D -85 that had 180k Km on it when I bought it.
Because it was a MB it was considered "just broke in", so obviously NOTHING was touched on the car.

I drove another 260k Km with it ....with NO REPAIRS whatsoever!
That poor car hardly got it's oil changed (50-80k Km between!! and the cheapest quailty).

To sum up, the ONLY thing I repaired on 260k Km was to install a new alternator belt !!!!!!

I according to the previous owner, he did NOTHING!

Now, this is not unusual on MB's, not even rated as GOOD among MB owners ........ and just about EVERY taxi in Sweden are MB's ....wonder why.....must be the colors .....

BTW, I sold the 190 to a friend for about 2 years ago ...a he has put another 50k Km on it ....and...NO REPAIRS....


Is that a quailty car or what ....?


/Sonny

...and?

We can all name cars that last forever. I could list for days the GM cars i know of with 200 and 300k on the odometer...but that still means little. My point was based on a simple fact...MB has scored near the bottom on EVERY quality/reliability test there is/was. They ranked 34th out of 40 on Consumer reports list this year, got a D- from Car&Driver, and Automobile magazine ranked them 4th in most warranty repairs per 100 cars. For god's sake they got beat by Hyundai! Sorry but when you charge the kind of money they do for a car, you need to be building better machines.

[subafan]

really.... surprised to hear that mb does so bad in the reliability rankings.... thought that they had a reputation for being nice luxurious reliable cars.....

[Landshark]

[Landshark]

Originally posted by Shadow248


...and?

We can all name cars that last forever. I could list for days the GM cars i know of with 200 and 300k on the odometer...but that still means little. My point was based on a simple fact...MB has scored near the bottom on EVERY quality/reliability test there is/was. They ranked 34th out of 40 on Consumer reports list this year, got a D- from Car&Driver, and Automobile magazine ranked them 4th in most warranty repairs per 100 cars. For god's sake they got beat by Hyundai! Sorry but when you charge the kind of money they do for a car, you need to be building better machines.

damn Chynsler infected Mercedes!!!!

[Sonar]

Get real, MB recommended change of the camchain on my car (190D -85) at 200k KM ......-how do you think your HYUNDAI looks then .. ? Probably at the junkyard where it then belongs.

Well maybe the quality had dropped on newer MB's , I don't know, but even if it drops to HALF, it's still TWICE better than an other average car!

Hell, even a brand new hyundai makes more rattles and noises than a 20 year old MB ...


And as I thought, a NON owner ....



/Sonny

[Shadow248]

Originally posted by Sonar
Get real, MB recommended change of the camchain on my car (190D -85) at 200k KM ......-how do you think your HYUNDAI looks then .. ? Probably at the junkyard where it then belongs.

Yeah well you can say that about alot of cars. We are talking about newer MB's which are night and day compared to old ones. What's the point in talking about 20 year old cars? My brother's 1969 Camaro has over 200,000 miles on it and still runs better and feels more solid than a brand new Accord. So what?

Originally posted by Sonar
Well maybe the quality had dropped on newer MB's , I don't know, but even if it drops to HALF, it's still TWICE better than an other average car!

Originally posted by Sonar
Hell, even a brand new hyundai makes more rattles and noises than a 20 year old MB ...

Again, my brother's 35 year old car makes less rattles and noises than just about any brand new car there is...so what?

Originally posted by Sonar
And as I thought, a NON owner ....

I put alot of research into what I buy... and if I were in the market for a premium tourer, i'd be looking at BMW, Cadillac, and Infiniti. So to correct your statement...i'm "a PROUD NON owner...".