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Old 03-17-2005, 10:13 AM
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Don't be so lilly livered. Show some intestestinal fortitude.
How could you sprout such tripe?


If your gonna' vent your spleen, Larry, at least have the guts to sign your name.

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You would think they'd be happy to have us back but from what I hear you would be wrong. They wanted $250 just for a room rental. Add that up and it translates into $5 a person based on 50 (which we can't even come close to anyways. We'd be looking at $30 a person at least.
I talked to Tony Reyes this afternoon about the possibility of having our dinner at the hotel for about 25-30 people. I also told him what we were told in the above quote.

He would waive the normal room rental fee of $250, just charging us a $50 set-up fee instead.

The following menu was sent to me by Tony this evening:

DINNERS

Appetizers
Shrimp Cocktail…...$7.95
Fresh Fruit Cup……$3.00
Bruchetta……………$4.50
Stuffed Mushrooms Imperial………$8.95

Soups
Old Fashioned Chicken Noodle……….$3.00
Italian Wedding Soup…………….....$3.50
Cream of Broccoli……………………….$3.50

ENTREES (choice of 2 entrees per group)

All entrees include a dinner salad with choice of dressing, potato, vegetable, rolls and whipped butter, served with coffee, decaffeinated coffee, tea, iced tea or soft drink.

Poultry
Roast Turkey and Dressing with Gravy……$13.95
Chicken Cordon Bleu -Breaded Chicken Stuffed with Ham and Swiss
Cheese
………….......$15.95
Chicken Chesapeake -Chicken Breast Topped with Crab, Ham, Tomato
and Hollandaise Sauce
…...$18.95
Chicken Divan - Chicken Breast Topped with Cheese and Broccoli…$16.95
Chicken Imperial - Chicken Breast with Lump Crabmeat and Imperial Sauce…$18.95
Chicken Florentine - Chicken Breast Topped with Spinach, Mushrooms,
Sun-Dried Tomatoes and a Light Cream Sauce
… $18.50

Beef
Roast Prime Rib of Beef - Served with Au Jus………$23.95
Broiled Filet Mignon - Served with a Port Wine Demi-Glaze and Mushrooms………$24.95
New York Strip Steak - Served with Sautéed Mushrooms and Onions……$22.95
London Broil with Mushroom Sauce.....$17.95
Sliced Top Round of Beef with Mushroom Gravy....$16.95

Fish
Flounder Casino - Broiled Flounder Baked with Casino Butter...$15.95
Baked Stuffed Flounder - Flounder Fillet Stuffed with Crabmeat...$17.95
Broiled Haddock - Haddock Fillet Baked with Lemon Butter…..$15.95
Salmon Fillet - Served, Topped with Hollandaise Sauce…$18.95


Add $3.25/person for a Complete Salad Bar (minimum number of people 20).
Add $3.50 per person for Assorted Desserts


I guess we could pick and choose whatever we wanted. I am not endorsing this option, just exploring all possibilities. I will talk to him tomorrow to clarify any information or to ask questions to this post.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by benebob
You would think they'd be happy to have us back but from what I hear you would be wrong. They wanted $250 just for a room rental. Add that up and it translates into $5 a person based on 50 (which we can't even come close to anyways. We'd be looking at $30 a person at least.
I talked to Tony Reyes this afternoon about the possibility of having our dinner at the hotel for about 25-30 people. I also told him what we were told in the above quote.

He would waive the normal room rental fee of $250, just charging us a $50 set-up fee instead.

The following menu was sent to me this evening:

DINNERS

Appetizers
Shrimp Cocktail with…...$7.95
Fresh Fruit Cup…………….$3.00
Bruchetta……………………..$4.50
Stuffed Mushrooms Imperial………$8.95

Soups
Old Fashion Chicken Noodle……….$3.00
Italian Wedding Soup…………….....$3.50
Cream of Broccoli……………………….$3.50

ENTREES choice of 2 entrees per group

Entrees include a dinner salad with choice of dressing, potato, vegetable, rolls and whipped butter, served with coffee, decaffeinated coffee, tea, iced tea or soft drink.

Poultry
Roast Turkey and Dressing with Gravy……$13.95
Stuffed Chicken Breast - Topped with Supreme Sauce……$14.95
Chicken Cordon Bleu.......$15.95
Chicken Chesapeake - Chicken Breast Topped with Crab, Ham, Tomato
and Hollandaise Sauce…...$18.95
Chicken Divan - Chicken Breast Topped with Cheese and Broccoli…$16.95
Chicken Imperial - Chicken Breast with Lump Crabmeat and Imperial Sauce…$18.95
Chicken Florentine - Chicken Breast Topped with Spinach, Mushrooms,
Sun Dried Tomatoes and a Light Cream Sauce… $18.50

Beef
Roast Prime Rib of Beef - Served with Au Jus………$23.95
Broiled Filet Mignon - Served over a Port Wine Demi Glaze with
Mushrooms………$24.95
New York Strip Steak - Served with Sautéed Mushrooms and Onions……$22.95
London Broil with Mushroom Sauce.....$17.95
Sliced Top Round of Beef with Mushroom Gravy....$16.95

Fish

Flounder Casino - Broiled Flounder Baked with Casino Butter...$15.95
Baked Stuffed Flounder - Flounder Fillet Stuffed with Crabmeat...$17.95
Broiled Haddock - Haddock Fillet Baked with Lemon Butter…..$15.95
Salmon Fillet - Served, Topped with Hollandaise Sauce…$18.95


Add $3.25/person for a Complete Salad Bar (minimum number of people 20).
Add $3.50 per person for Assorted Desserts


I guess we could pick and choose whatever we wanted. I am not endorsing this option, just exploring all possibilities. I will talk to him tomorrow to clarify any information or to ask questions to this post.

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John, could you please post the wine list?

John, could you please post the wine list?

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Old 03-18-2005, 05:31 AM
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I talked to Tony Reyes this afternoon about the possibility of having our dinner at the hotel for about 25-30 people. I also told him what we were told in the above quote.

He would waive the normal room rental fee of $250, just charging us a $50 set-up fee instead.

The following menu was sent to me this evening:

DINNERS

Appetizers
Shrimp Cocktail with?...$7.95
Fresh Fruit Cup?????.$3.00
Bruchetta????????..$4.50
Stuffed Mushrooms Imperial???$8.95

Soups
Old Fashion Chicken Noodle???.$3.00
Italian Wedding Soup?????.....$3.50
Cream of Broccoli?????????.$3.50

ENTREES choice of 2 entrees per group

Entrees include a dinner salad with choice of dressing, potato, vegetable, rolls and whipped butter, served with coffee, decaffeinated coffee, tea, iced tea or soft drink.

Poultry
Roast Turkey and Dressing with Gravy??$13.95
Stuffed Chicken Breast - Topped with Supreme Sauce??$14.95
Chicken Cordon Bleu.......$15.95
Chicken Chesapeake - Chicken Breast Topped with Crab, Ham, Tomato
and Hollandaise Sauce?...$18.95
Chicken Divan - Chicken Breast Topped with Cheese and Broccoli?$16.95
Chicken Imperial - Chicken Breast with Lump Crabmeat and Imperial Sauce?$18.95
Chicken Florentine - Chicken Breast Topped with Spinach, Mushrooms,
Sun Dried Tomatoes and a Light Cream Sauce? $18.50

Beef
Roast Prime Rib of Beef - Served with Au Jus???$23.95
Broiled Filet Mignon - Served over a Port Wine Demi Glaze with
Mushrooms???$24.95
New York Strip Steak - Served with Sautéed Mushrooms and Onions??$22.95
London Broil with Mushroom Sauce.....$17.95
Sliced Top Round of Beef with Mushroom Gravy....$16.95

Fish

Flounder Casino - Broiled Flounder Baked with Casino Butter...$15.95
Baked Stuffed Flounder - Flounder Fillet Stuffed with Crabmeat...$17.95
Broiled Haddock - Haddock Fillet Baked with Lemon Butter?..$15.95
Salmon Fillet - Served, Topped with Hollandaise Sauce?$18.95


Add $3.25/person for a Complete Salad Bar (minimum number of people 20).
Add $3.50 per person for Assorted Desserts


I guess we could pick and choose whatever we wanted. I am not endorsing this option, just exploring all possibilities. I will talk to him tomorrow to clarify any information or to ask questions to this post.

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So I'm assuming you're planning on picking up the tab for the contract that we signed? Like I said all possiblities were explored and if you add this stuff up you get about $30 a person for crap once you include the tip in there You can do whatever you want next year. I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you're so eager to help out (even though I clearly stated that dinner was taken care off) how about we just let you set up the Rally?
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So I'm assuming you're planning on picking up the tab for the contract that we signed? Like I said all possiblities were explored and if you add this stuff up you get about $30 a person for crap once you include the tip in there You can do whatever you want next year. I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you're so eager to help out (even though I clearly stated that dinner was taken care off) how about we just let you set up the Rally?

Oh, good grief.
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Oh, good grief.

Yeah good grief it is. I'm sick and tired of everyone butting their heads in things at the last minute. As far as I'm concerned now I'm totally done with reading from this point on. Not even sure if I'll go as I'm sick and tired of the complaining that I have to put up with. Then idiots decide 2 weeks out that they are gonna get involved. Well good. All the events aside from dinner are on svxcess as with a 7 month pregnant wife at home I have better things to do that put up with this crap.
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Since you're so eager to help out (even though I clearly stated that dinner was taken care of) how about we just let you set up the Rally?
Ben,

I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes or diminish the amount of time and effort you have contributed on our belhalf.

I was originally following up with Tony about the current room situations (how many registered, how many rooms were still on, or were taken off, the reserve block, accommodations and rates for last minute attendees, etc.) I happened to mention the 250.00 fee for a dining room and the other concerns to him and he made this offer.

I am always eager to help out whenever asked. I have initiated and negotiated the 4 past Reading room contracts, starting back in October of each year. I guess it is assumed that I will take the initiative on this and I don't mind it one bit. This contribution pales in comparison to the amount of work it takes to do all of the other planning required to make Reading what it is. Rally route planning, scenic drives, prize donations from dealers and vendors, and a lot of other matters that people don't think about and take for granted.

No offense intended and you have my sincerest apology. I should have followed this thread a little more closely.

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R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016

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Ben,

I sympathize with you.

Randy, Earl, Ron, and Doug still owe me $14,000 for the dinner at the 10th Anniv. SVX Meet (if you count interest).
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I sympathize with you.

Randy, Earl, Ron, and Doug still owe me $14,000 for the dinner at the 10th Anniv. SVX Meet (if you count interest).
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Yeah good grief it is. I'm sick and tired of everyone butting their heads in things at the last minute. As far as I'm concerned now I'm totally done with reading from this point on. Not even sure if I'll go as I'm sick and tired of the complaining that I have to put up with. Then idiots decide 2 weeks out that they are gonna get involved. Well good. All the events aside from dinner are on svxcess as with a 7 month pregnant wife at home I have better things to do that put up with this crap.
Reading between the lines, there is obviously a lot more going on here than "Reading." I hope that, whatever it is, will get worked out and you'll be back to your rational self and cooler heads prevail.
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Reading between the lines, there is obviously a lot more going on here than "Reading." I hope that, whatever it is, will get worked out and you'll be back to your rational self and cooler heads prevail.
Obviously Randy, you're illiterate then. I'm perfectly rational. Just sick and tired of the crap.

Like I said I'm done. No drive, no rally, no events unless someone else here steps up and takes their turn. Considering since the meet was returned back to its old location (nearly an hour from me) I figure there are at least 15 SVXers closer.

Maybe I'll show maybe I won't. I'll got to dinner because unlike many here I honor my commitments.
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Obviously Randy, you're illiterate then. I'm perfectly rational. Just sick and tired of the crap.

Like I said I'm done. No drive, no rally, no events unless someone else here steps up and takes their turn. Considering since the meet was returned back to its old location (nearly an hour from me) I figure there are at least 15 SVXers closer.

Maybe I'll show maybe I won't. I'll got to dinner because unlike many here I honor my commitments.


I'm illiterate then. My bad. By the way, I've never complained nor have I failed to keep my commitments, so, I don't think I deserve the attitude.
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Mike Davis -- at Reading VI

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