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02-14-2005, 04:22 PM
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Re: Re: lead foot advice...
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#17
02-14-2005, 04:41 PM
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The Valentine's high throne has actually been challenged lately, by many different sources. One of the sources that is better laid-out is http://www.radartest.com/ The Valentine has been almost unchanged since it's debut in the early nineties. POP radar protection has only been recently added, and almost every feature comes at a hefty additional price to the baseline. When their star review was done a while ago, the V1 didn't have POP. Nevertheless, the Beltronics detector still beat it out in terms of range, and lack of false alarms. It has also had POP protection for some time now. Read up on it. Don't just become gullible to the V1 hype over the years. Just my $0.02, though.
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02-14-2005, 04:43 PM
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the fcc has banned them but that doesnt mean you cant use them.....  now if i could just figure out how to make that work... you could do it all discreet and have it completely hidden in the engine bay so if you do get pulled over it wouldnt matter.... that would be some trick psycho militant anarchist techie sh!t..... hmmmm worth looking into imo
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02-14-2005, 05:37 PM
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02-14-2005, 06:56 PM
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This talk show host does all of the voices in the interview. He sometimes has people call in to argue with his guests, and it is him. They are amazing at times and keep you rolling on the floor.
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02-14-2005, 09:42 PM
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apparently a jammer's not that difficult to make, but it's not going to be the size of those radar detectors out now. also the cost would be so high, it might not be worth it (not including the fact that it's illegal and it's a federal offense to use one). i think i read someone's estimate cost for the parts and such would run around $3k+++ apparently laser jammers are legal. they sell them at best buys, hifi buys, and circuit city.
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02-15-2005, 01:55 AM
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02-15-2005, 07:57 PM
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i know i dont want to get involved in this discussion but yes jammers do cost about 1000 buck many guys out there making decent ones for that cost that you do put in the engine bay or such. Yes it is illegal from what i understand of the law the cop has no legal right to search for them and secondly how many cops know anything about cars? have you ever had one tell you something like "you drive a $60,000 car learn to drive it while you are driving around in a $35000 BMW" or "ABS makes it so you cant slide...how did you do that?" I doubt they would know what the f they were looking at
 I dont promote illegal action but hell i know i speed a lot so i do break the law in one way.
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02-16-2005, 12:21 AM
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Cops don't have to know much. They get tools like guns and tazers. Along with their defense arsenal, they get traffic radars that have some ECCM (Electronic Counter-Countermeasures) capabilities. http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=6000 Let me know which jammers you can find that work for $1000. I'll buy one, break the law, and then see what happens. For most people a year in jail, hefty fine, and being marked as a 'criminal' isn't worth a lousy speeding ticket. Well unless you're 1 point away from having your license revoked.
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02-16-2005, 12:51 AM
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I love the question, "Is there any reason why you were speeding?" There's really no way to answer that. My favorite answer is, "Objection! Leading the witness." ...or just smile and smugly say, "Nice try."
There isn't a lawyer in the world that would fall for that.The FCC grants special license to certain agencies to use certain bands and police radar is one of those bands we civilians cannot use without special permission. It's not so much that jammers are illegal, but rather that transmitting on certain bands is prohibited at a federal level, and that you would be interfering with police at a state level. A jammer can be built for pocket change. A sophisticated jammer requires a few more bucks. A simple jammer simply transmits on a fairly wide band at great amplitude. This is like screaming loudly while someone is trying to talk. Make enough noise and the radar receiver can't hear the returning signal after it bounces off your car. This is a very effective way to jam a transmission. Receivers generally require fairly intelligent circuitry to decipher the original transmission amongst all the noise from a signal that's only slightly greater. If the noise is particularly "dirty," picking out the original signal is effectively impossible. (Ever hear of the SETI project?) A more sophisticated unit would either read the incoming signal from the radar gun or have a pre-programmed signal which it would transmit at the appropriate time to arrive about the same time the radar gun's bounced signal would arrive back at it's receiver. This is much like "dirty" noise but it's a very specific kind of dirt - something that resembles the original transmission. This type of jammer could cost thousands of dollars. A simple one could easily be built for under a hundred bucks. I always wanted to build a giant Jacobs's ladder under my car. They make plenty of radio noise on pretty much every band. ...of course, it wouldn't work very well at any speed, but it'd wreak havoc on everything. It'd also look cool at night. Talk about some wicked ground effects. If you can't outrun radio waves, you're driving too slowly.
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02-16-2005, 01:35 AM
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funny response. but yes i meant more than a simple jammer.
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02-17-2005, 03:13 AM
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If they get you with the instant on type, you are got, pay the ticket.
There is a fundamental difference between laser types and radar types. With a radar detector, you need it mounted high up in the car, in order to be able to discern weak signal from far away over rolling territory. Reason: the sooner your detector sees a signal and alerts you, the better chance you have of dropping speed before you get to the trap, and more importantly before they can verify the signal was reflected off your vehicle. With laser, the beam is way, way narrower, and they can pick you out from a lot of traffic. But they tend to aim at front number plates because they are good reflectors, also the nose of the car is rectilinear to the ground, and will return the best signal anyway. So the best place for a laser detector is remote, somewhere near your front number plate [if you have one] With laser because they can lock and read so quick, for complete protection you would probably also need a jammer that would knock out the gun for a few seconds till you scrub speed, then switch off to avoid suspicion and a search by irate cops. What this means is that the ones that say they can do everything, 360 degree protection etc, are BS. If you mount it high enough to be good for radar, then it will certainly miss the laser. And as for reading laser from behind, forget it. The cops would rather chase you. A dual/triple system, or nothing. Joe
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#30
02-17-2005, 05:16 AM
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i know of one person that has a jammer. it installs these pods in the bumpers of you car at the 4 corners (cant see it) he says it works. but he owns westminister speed and sound and sells them so i imagine he is biased. however, hes preaty straght up with me. i was in the store 6 months ago and the system was still in stock. as i said i havvent tried it but if mark tells me it works, i have no reason the believe that it doesn't.
i was under the impression that it jamed both radar and lazer. but further inquaries will be needed. Last edited by Matthewmongan; 02-17-2005 at 05:48 AM.
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