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Thanks Bud, I read the whole thing, good info on there.
Guys, I found a local shop that has a dedicated machine that supposedly does the following: - Change Oil in the Compressor - Pull Vacuum and Flush AC system - Reload with R134 including dye He says that the price varies, but it's up to $105 depending on how much R134 my system fits. Do you think this is a fair price for the above service? Also, if I don't turn on the AC, can I drive the car to this shop without damaging the compressor? Last question: if he performs the above, all that is left for me to do before putting things back together (got a new dryer too) is to change or clean the compressor filter. Where is that located, and what's the correct procedure to clean or replace it? Thank you for all the help and for your patience. -Walter PS= I really wanted to fill the system with A22/ES-22a ... do you guys suggest I try that instead?
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...anyone?
Thanks, -Walter
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You need to get it together
before a vacuum can be pulled on it put everything together like it is all over. Then take it to the man.
With no refrigerant in the system, the compressor will not turn because the clutch will not engage. Keith |
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Thanks! -Walter
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I don't....
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I understand about the out of order thing. On the form, there are various levels of expertise, as we all start learning at different times! Just wanted to make sure. I just woke up and started my ritual of coming here 1st! I can look after the wife gets up. For the filter (dryer-strainer), I never had to look for it yet, but it might be on the right side attached to the line coming back from the condenser that is in front of the radiator. Could be on the left as well but will have a line attached to it from the condenser that is in front of the radiator. I wouldn't think that it would actually be in front of the radiator as well but it might. I think you can probably find it? just a guess, or 2. Might even have a sight gage attached to it. (just the ramblings of a 78 year old, half asleep person) Keith Last edited by kwren; 06-06-2008 at 11:36 AM. |
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Keith, wait a minute, "filter" = "drier"?
If that's the case, I know exactly where it is and I already have a new one waiting to be installed. For some reason I interpreted other posts on the matter as if there was an internal mesh filter inside the compressor itself. Sorry guys, I have never messed with AC systems! So basically all I have to do is drain the old oil, put everything back together and take it to get filled with oil then freon? Can the oil be put in the compressor after it's installed? Thanks for your patience guys. -Walter PS= Are you really 78? That's great, I wish more "mature" individuals in Italy would use the internet like they do here in the USA, it's awesome.
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The oil can be put in with the compresor installed.
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Take care, Keith |
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As for oil, you have to use R-134a oil, somewhere under the hood is a "Subaru air conditioner" decal, and on there it will say how much oil to use, which you can just pour into the compressor before you close the system back up. Definitely need to evacuate the system, and you'll want to replace the receiver/dryer (You can get them from the dealer, if the parts house doesn't have them, they are not all that expensive, ~$80) and the O-Rings (You can get R-134a compatible O rings from autozone) while you have it open. I'd recommend having a shop or the dealer do the evac and recharge, as it's a lot easier with the proper equipment If you replace the receiver dryer, pour half of the recommended oil amount into the "out" port of the receiver/dryer, and the other half into the compressor. Also, $110 is an EXCELLENT price, my dealer charges ~$150. You'll need to replace the O-rings on any fittings that you took apart or it will leak. An assortment of A/C O-Rings runs about $4 or so at Autozone.
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This has got me to wondering...
Might not be a bad idea for everyone to replace the o-rings on the receiver/dryer when we replace the o-rings for the compressor lines.
Maybe everyone else already does it and the light just came on for me? Take care, Keith Last edited by kwren; 06-07-2008 at 11:24 AM. Reason: spelling (of course) LOL |
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Well I have all the equipment in my garage and have done hvac work on hundreds of cars in the past. I am amazed at how something so simple as 1 adaptor could be so hard to find. I went to AZ, NAPA, Aline, Advance and Orielys and best i found was a guy that said they use to sell ones that fit, but not any more. I gave up and just used the low side.
I have cold air now. Quote:
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(On a side note, Toyota sells an R134a retrofit kit for their cars, I wonder if Subaru sells a similar kit for Subarus? Might try the Subaru dealer.) I checked the online technical info and didn't see a bulletin regarding retrofits, might want to contact the dealer...
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p.s. some universal huh? 'It fits all cars, but if it doesn't fit yours then just give us a call...) lol
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Gentlemen,
Thank you so much for your replies. I have finally gotten the old compressor out (half hour worth of yanking left and right, kept on rubbing against intake manifold, alternator and other things). I am getting ready to put my "other" compressor in, as you can see in this pic: Before I mount the replacement compressor, all I need to do is drain the old oil out, correct? Can you guys confirm the correct way to do this? Do I simply put it upside down and let it drip, or do I remove one of the bolts (there's one on top and one on the back of it)? After I drain as much old oil out of it, can I go ahead and put everything back together and take it to the shop to get refilled? Thanks for confirming everything. Quote:
Regards, -Walter
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Walter, I just came across this thread. Hopefully not too late to be helpful. I can vouch for the A22/ES-22a/ES-12a/HC-12a refrigerant. I used it (under the last 2 designations) in my '92, and it worked excellently (frigedly)! I didn't have to drain anything or convert anything. It was alot cheaper than the old R-12 freon, comparable in price to R134a, and able to mix with either. According to one posting on some board I came across, R134a is highly carcinogenic, even through skin contact. I can't confirm that, though.
I ended up using quite a bit of the stuff (And R-12 before I discovered this alternative) since after I replaced one component of my A/C system, another would spring a leak, until I had eventually replaced the compressor, receiver-dryer/accumulator, and the condesor! I found all 3 components used in junkyards. I removed the receiver-dryer myself, but I had a shop do all the installation. |
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Then I'm gonna be getting cancer soon because me and R-134a have become good friends lately.
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