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Old 12-05-2003, 08:00 PM
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Top speed according to supercars.net: Stang 149mph, Evo 111mph. Ouch, the Evo speed seems a bit low, but I'm not surprised the Crapstang is faster, it's a V8. I can't find acceleration #'s, but you can bet the Evo's a hell of a lot quicker.

But top speed was never the issue, it was the race, which is almost unanimous that the Evo would have won had anyone other than a retarded monkey on crack had been driving. Plus, you must have missed the part where I said I hate the Evo too, so honestly, I really don't care which was faster. If I had the money for either, I'd buy a C5 Vette and be smoking the both of them.

And Kelli, don't take anything I say personal. I just like getting you worked up cause your the only one that likes the fords.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:44 PM
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Speaking of fords...

Just when you thought the T-Bird couldn't get any uglier, fords goes and does what it does best:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/n...031203_tbirds/

Now, what I don't understand, is how anyone can not figure why fords sucks so bad after lookin at that...thing.
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:25 PM
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i'm glad that it excites you to try to irritate someone you don't know and will never meet on something that you are wrong about on the internet. if i had a pick on vettes, i would pick the Z06

and obviously i am not the only person that likes fords, or else the company would have gone under a long time ago.

if i had the money, i would pick this
http://julius.rts.com.au/~poulose/pi...peed12side.jpg ----TVR speed

Kelli

edit: every company has ugly cars too
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:33 PM
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Pick it as what? An ugly car?
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:56 AM
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hey Jeff....find me records that with equal modding (engine upgrades and what not) that an EVO would take a stock, supercharged SVT cobra. maybe off the line...fine...but in the end, no contest

i didn't have a daddy at home to show me where my dipstick went, my mother showed me

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while the stock EVo puts out 271 hp and 273 lb ft of torque stock

the SVT puts out "390 hp and an equal measure of torque"

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wow....kelli you need to stop it now.....if not you'll have every single guy on the board trying to ask for your hand in marriage. a woman that knows where a dipstick lies as well as pulling facts about cars from a car magazine...very sought after . you probably know more about cars than i do!
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:09 AM
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Harry you are something you know that!

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Old 12-06-2003, 05:11 AM
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hey Jeff....find me records that with equal modding (engine upgrades and what not) that an EVO would take a stock, supercharged SVT cobra. maybe off the line...fine...but in the end, no contest

i didn't have a daddy at home to show me where my dipstick went, my mother showed me

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while the stock EVo puts out 271 hp and 273 lb ft of torque stock

the SVT puts out "390 hp and an equal measure of torque"

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EVO, Shmeevo.......

Hot Rod magazine just ran the Cobra up against the STi in a "old school hot rod vs. new school hot rod" type of challenge. the 300hp Sti beat the 390hp Cobra in every category - 0-60, 1/4 mile, handling, etc. the STi is cheaper, too, with room for four, and you can drive it all year long (try driving that Cobra in 4 inches of snow )

of course, Hot Rod had to downplay it all and say, "well, uh, there still ain't nothin' like a bunch of cubes under da hood!"

maybe if Ford kicks up the Cobra to 420hp, it might beat the little STi in a few categories.
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:15 AM
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Alan, wasn't arguing for the STi, just the EVO..
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:19 AM
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Alan, wasn't arguing for the STi, just the EVO..
seems a silly comparison, considering the EVO has even LESS power than the STi to put up against the 390 in the Cobra, but OK. i could make a talking Kelli to explain why ........ <runs and hides>
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:58 AM
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seems a silly comparison, considering the EVO has even LESS power than the STi to put up against the 390 in the Cobra, but OK. i could make a talking Kelli to explain why ........ <runs and hides>
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:35 AM
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seems a silly comparison, considering the EVO has even LESS power than the STi to put up against the 390 in the Cobra, but OK. i could make a talking Kelli to explain why ........ <runs and hides>
I think you may have missed my post...Its been found that the EVO is a tick quicker than the STi in performance tests. The difference is believed to come from the fact that the EVO has a 5 speed while the STi has a 6. That extra shift makes up for the difference in times. So basically, both cars are more or less even in performance terms. So it was a pretty good comparison.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:51 AM
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I think you may have missed my post...Its been found that the EVO is a tick quicker than the STi in performance tests. The difference is believed to come from the fact that the EVO has a 5 speed while the STi has a 6. That extra shift makes up for the difference in times. So basically, both cars are more or less even in performance terms. So it was a pretty good comparison.
i've seen tests where the STi was quicker - the most important variable is the driver - the EVO and STi are pretty much even. i used the STi for comparison because it was tested directly against the SVT Cobra.
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and my Soarer the only other thing Ill own
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Nothing better then a blue oval in my garage !!
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I HATE MUSTANGS. I have one rhetorical question for you...
why is it that for 40 years the mustang has been trying to catch the camaro and never could...but now that the camaro is gone, they finally build a cobra that could run with a camaro SS? It would have been so great to see that 390hp cobra to take on the 345hp T/A...now that would have been a worthy contender. But why only now?! THAT'S why ford is falling fast as a company, they don't think on their feet.


Kelli dear, why does a sweet, beautiful girl like you have to take an interest in sub-standard cars like a cobra? Stick with the SVX if nothing else. Ford is like the titanic right now. No one wants to be on that ship.

I still think the Cobra would take an EVO. Yeah the numbers are in the EVO's favor...but only when you take weight into consideration. Isn't it funny that no one can "properly launch" an EVO? Sometimes numbers don't match what happens in the real world. I hear so many Import guys saying "oh the (insert random import here) would have taken that (camaro or mustang) if he would have launched it right". Did anyone take into consideration that MAYBE it's not possible to "launch it right"? With front wheel drive, you get to a point where there is just too much power. It's the same way for RWD but you can go ALOT further. I thought my GTP just had too much power...cause i have the same problem...i try to really launch hard, and get nothing but wheelspin. That's why race cars have classically been RWD. Just because it's the old way doesn't mean it's the wrong way.

The EVO will go down in history as one of those glorious oddities...like the SRT-4 and maybe even STI. Though the STI has alot more technology and a higher class appeal, so it may have a chance. The point is, we see these types of cars come along every ten years or so...remember the Dodge Spirit Turbo, Grand Prix Turbo, Grand National, and Trans Am turbo? Those were all sick cars...but lasted only a couple of years. Bottom line is no matter how fast a Lancer is, it's still a Lancer, and very few people will pay the outrageous price of an EVO for what is really just a dressed up Lancer. Not that this pattern is a bad thing, it certainly gives us something to talk about.
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