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Old 04-19-2008, 03:14 PM
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Okay... here's where I'm at. My car has always pulled right a little, so when I noticed a place that does alignment checks, I had 'em take a look. They got it up on the lift, and like all Californians () they were afraid of the rust. But they did let me look all over the car while it was up there, and I snapped some photos of the rear with my phone. They also showed me a little something up front which was distressing. So here it is, here's everything I know about my car. I want to know if it's worth saving, or even if it's possible to save it.

First, pics of the rear.


Rust, rust, everywhere...


Rust so bad that it ate holes into the brake rotor guide.

And then...

-Most any part under the car is rusted

-Brake rotors need replacing (my own fault for not doing them when I did the calipers and pads)

-Engine Mounts are shot (front-left is literally split on top, front-right is very loose)

-Engine leaks oil from somewhere inside timing covers (probably cam caps)

-Car pulls right (probably a combination of factors)

Aside from that, nothing else. The overheating doesn't happen anymore.

So...verdict? Should I bother to spend any more money on this thing, or should I just get rid of it?
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:23 PM
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Some down time for disassembly, a sand blaster, and some good paint will go a long way to help preserve your svx
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:02 PM
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Honestly, the rust you have on the components looks to be just surface rust. The backing plates could use changed, just to keep water out of the e-brake. Rust usually isn't a problem, until it starts to rot the metal of the body itself. Even then, until it starts to eat the suspension mounts, it's repairable.

Here's an example of rust that's repairable:

Yes, it's structural, but with a proper repair, it's not terminal.

This is terminal cancer:

Note that it's completly rusted through where the suspension attaches.

While the rust you have looks bad, it's not unsafe.

As for the rest of your woes, they are cause for concern, but with a one problem at a time approach, they're all fairly simple fixes.
My 2bits on it pulling:
Have the control arm, and strut bushings inspected.
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Old 04-19-2008, 05:12 PM
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Pfft. That's nothing. I've seen far worse rust. What you've got is "age rust." Surface rust, nothing more.
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Old 04-19-2008, 05:17 PM
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Ditto them. My rust kicks your rusts' butt any day...
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Old 04-19-2008, 06:48 PM
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Pfft. That's nothing. I've seen far worse rust. What you've got is "age rust." Surface rust, nothing more.
I agree, as I was trying to find something of any significance. Fix the car as you know where you will be starting and finishing. Much better than another dive into the wilderness.
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:17 PM
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Cars here in Iowa have FAR worse rust than anything like what you have on yours,and they run for years and years.

That's really just surface rust that really isn't bothering anything. Sure it looks tacky and you CAN clean it up, but the car is not going to fall apart anytime soon if you do nothing about it.
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:32 PM
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Here's another example of bad rust. This is the frame of a 1997 Geo Metro. You can't quite see it there, but that crack is all the way through the frame. That car went to the junkyard.

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Figures. These guys had me thinking that the car was doomed or something. I should have paid more attention to the fact that they're Californian. Great. So it's fixable, that's good.

So now, where should I start? Motor mounts and engine overhaul go together, that's obvious. But about the suspension bits and rusted brake parts, how should I go with those things? I'd love to get a plan together.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:27 PM
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Those suspension parts don't need replaced. A coat of POR-15 will help keep them from getting any worse. You can brush that on.

The brake backing plates look bad, but if they keep water out of the E-brake, they're good for the short haul. If not, or if you're seroiusly concerned, they shouldn't be too expensive, or hard to find, used or new.

As for the floorpan, does it have any signs of rust? If so, get the POR-15 after it immediately.

Oh yeah, POR-15 is Paint Over Rust, formula 15. No cleanup, no mess, just brush, or spray it on. And it WORKS!!
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:38 PM
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I too can recommend POR-15. Works well, and goes on easy.

You just paint over the rust!
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. . . I want to know if it's worth saving, or even if it's possible to save it. . . .
Just like the master body man said, who resurrected my family-owned-since new 1965 Mustang (car I drove to HS, then went through five brothers and sisters) . . . "Phil, unless this car has some sentimental value, I don't think it is a proper candidate for restoration."

$35,000 later . . .

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Just like the master body man said, who resurrected my family-owned-since new 1965 Mustang (car I drove to HS, then went through five brothers and sisters) . . . "Phil, unless this car has some sentimental value, I don't think it is a proper candidate for restoration."

$35,000 later . . .

And worth every dollar.

Cool, man, that is absolutely cool. Those cars redefined the spirit of motoring for fun in their day. Of course it was worth restoring. Beautiful.

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Figures. These guys had me thinking that the car was doomed or something. I should have paid more attention to the fact that they're Californian. Great. So it's fixable, that's good.

So now, where should I start? Motor mounts and engine overhaul go together, that's obvious. But about the suspension bits and rusted brake parts, how should I go with those things? I'd love to get a plan together.
Surface rust from driving on salt. It would not worry me, and Crazy is right, get your bushings checked out and your control arm for that pulling to the left first.

After that maybe your engine mounts. I would simply replace the rear dirt deflector for the rear brakes. Those things are paper thin anyway.

And that PQR 15 sounds a good solution.

While you are doing the PQR paint over, you should also check out the How To on buying an SVX. I seem to recall that serious rust can start in the rear arches around the upper strut mount, and you have to take off the plastic arch protector to see it.

Not trying to worry you or anything, but if you want to be thorough and not worried about it, it would be worth checking that area and addressing whatever you find there.

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I too can recommend POR-15. Works well, and goes on easy.

You just paint over the rust!
You need to seek out a 'back-yard' bodyshop that LIKES old cars. I'm sure that there are guys like my bro and me SOMEWHERE on the left coast!!

We had the 'pleasure' of going to a world class body shop. They spend countless dollars on cars and only deal with 'bolt on' parts. IF it has nasty RUST, they can't handle it! WE bought a Ford Phaeton that they had deemed "Too bad to restore", for $350.!! It was a LOT better than most of the stuff we start with!
P.S. Wear rubber gloves when you paint your rust w' the affore-mentioned product! (I had black hands for 2 weeks)
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