manual conversion wiring for speedo

[93tzlegacy]

Originally Posted by Dessertrunner

Ben,
Run this teat for me.
Okay so if your speedo is wired right you should be able to start the car, then unplug the small wire off the starter and then you can go for a drive and test the cruiser (need to be above 40kph). It should work. Once we find that works we can sort the next step out.
Tony

sweet, as soon as ite registered, ill test it out (should be thursday)
thanks,
Ben.

[93tzlegacy]

so i disconnected the starter signal once the engine was running and the cruise works, BUT i get an instant CEL as well as starter signal abnormal (12) (because the wire is disconnected i assume) and air flow meter abnormal signal (23)

anyone else have this happen? thanks, Ben.

[legacyau]

Does the cruise engage with the starter connected? yes the cel is normal when the solenoid is disconnected for the starter anyway can't say about the 23 , for example if you do the relay mod on the starter it doesnt like it when you put the auto in neutral, the ecu gets all cranky, its a weird set up where the cruise is reliant on the starter solenoid being there

[93tzlegacy]

Originally Posted by legacyau

Does the cruise engage with the starter connected? yes the cel is normal when the solenoid is disconnected for the starter anyway can't say about the 23 , for example if you do the relay mod on the starter it doesnt like it when you put the auto in neutral, the ecu gets all cranky, its a weird set up where the cruise is reliant on the starter solenoid being there

cruise wont work with the started connected looking at the wiring diagram i may be able to just remove the brown diode block behind the glove box to fix the issue ?

[huck369]

If wired up like in my write up, the cruise will work...

[Dessertrunner]

Pull the diode as it is the method the cruise uses to see if the starter is there. Okay to why it works this way?

On the auto the cruiser is looking through the gear change at the end of the circut is the starter. This is only there when the car is in Park, so the logic is that the designers don't want you to be able to kick the car into netural while the cruise is on.
Simply pull the diode sloves the problem.
Tony

[93tzlegacy]

Originally Posted by huck369

If wired up like in my write up, the cruise will work...

its an australian delivered car..... the wiring isnt the same.

[huck369]

Originally Posted by 93tzlegacy

its an australian delivered car..... the wiring isnt the same.

I would think the Neutral Safety Switch would be similar if not the same, and wiring a Clutch position switch to fool it into thinking it was in Neutral when you push the pedal down, would allow it to start when you press in the pedal, and also kick the cruise off if you press in the peddle

[93tzlegacy]

Originally Posted by huck369

I would think the Neutral Safety Switch would be similar if not the same, and wiring a Clutch position switch to fool it into thinking it was in Neutral when you push the pedal down, would allow it to start when you press in the pedal, and also kick the cruise off if you press in the peddle

i understand what you mean now, i had the low current neutral wired into the clutch pedal, not the high current starter signal neutral.

[Dessertrunner]

I your idea sounds good Huck, if I undestand what you are saying we need to clutch in to get the starter to work? Is that correct?
Tony

[huck369]

Originally Posted by Dessertrunner

I your idea sounds good Huck, if I undestand what you are saying we need to clutch in to get the starter to work? Is that correct?
Tony

Correct Tony,
When you press the pedal down, it allows the starter circuit to work, and in turn will kick off the cruise control when you push in the pedal (as it does in a Cruise equipped manual from the factory)

[93tzlegacy]

ended up just pulling the diodew from the loom, cruise now works, for the clutch im goung to wire a switch in parallel to the cruise brake light switch so it works as per factory.