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crank pulley starter trick ?
do the fans have to be connected for the motor to bump over?
im pulling everything to replace the timing belt and ive gotten to the crank pulley well i'd already read about the methods to break it loose and i'd chosen on the starter one only, turning the car over produced a click - and the check engine idiot indicator clicks rapidly in time to a relay...? what gives, it cranked over just fine with everything connected... but with the radiator out [w/fans] and a few other things undone it just clicks and won't turn over... both sides of the battery are secure - but she wont actually bump over and break the bolt loose any ideas? |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
What else is undone?
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
well i put the radiator back in and connected the fans... no luck
motor still wont turn over - just a cool click and nothing else im trying the screwdriver trick but that isnt going so well... where do i wedge this thing... top of the motor? bottom where you can see the teeth of the torque converter...? sure wish i had the tool for this from subaru... |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
<<im pulling everything to replace the timing belt...but with the radiator out [w/fans] and a few other things undone it just clicks and won't turn over>>
why did you remove the radiator to do a timing belt? |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
having the radiator out gives me more room to roam, i like tight spaces, but if we go down that route we certainly aren't talking about my car anymore
so, the radiator is out, the screwdriver trick worked and off came my pulley and covers... this is what was within |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
Holy Crap!!!!!! How did that happen? No wonder it wouldn't start.
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Seth 94' Barcelona Red w/ Tricoat black 2-tone AWD Ls -Sold Mods:AWD conversion/4.44 swap by Budfreak, Custom red interior lights, Custom Satin black dash, Power mode switch, Cold air intake, Permecool tranny filter,Sony xplode 10" sub, Sony xplode 1000w amp, Blitz in-line driver, DDM Tuning 6000k HID's, New paint job/body work by me, 97' Grill, QC shift kit, 17'' MB Motoring rims, 15&20 min mod, front & rear urethane swaybar bushings, Custom fiberglass sub box, Custom red led a/c control unit, perrin lightweight crank pulley, Black wrinkle finish powdercoated intake manifold w/ clear hoses , 02' outback heated/power black leather seats Soon to come:Fiberglass hood, upholster ALL suede to black leather Past subies: 92' Pearl White/black top LS-L-SOLD 96' Legacy Outback-TOTALED 99' Legacy Outback Limited 30th anniversary edition-TOTALED 98' Forester L -Totaled Other toys: 99' Forester S -WRX brake upgrade, soon an 04 wrx motor swap 06' B9 Tribeca-Stock 1982' Yamaha xj650 Maxim Mods: work in progress |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
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check engine light pulsed a few times and click, the car was off i pulled over to the side and knowing that im sitting on a non interference motor i crank her over a few times... nothing... not much i could do from the side of the road - had it towed to the closest repair shop only to hear it's my timing belt and that it'll be around $1700 well that isnt going to happen... so home she comes and i start pulling her apart... after getting the covers off - that's what i found! im going to need a passenger side backing cover because that got ate a little - and of course new cover seals all around... ive already got a new water pump and timing kit - the idlers and pulleys in there actually look good, they just have belt residue on them, but ill use new parts just cause i have them... all in all it's not too bad just have to find that backing cover and some seals any ideas? |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
I think I can help with the cover and seals...
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
I just replaced one of my timing covers(behind timing belt) and a camshaft plug 2 weeks ago. It's not that bad of a job just time consuming. I would also check your cam seals and plugs for leaks because they are less that 5$ and now would be the time to change them.
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Seth 94' Barcelona Red w/ Tricoat black 2-tone AWD Ls -Sold Mods:AWD conversion/4.44 swap by Budfreak, Custom red interior lights, Custom Satin black dash, Power mode switch, Cold air intake, Permecool tranny filter,Sony xplode 10" sub, Sony xplode 1000w amp, Blitz in-line driver, DDM Tuning 6000k HID's, New paint job/body work by me, 97' Grill, QC shift kit, 17'' MB Motoring rims, 15&20 min mod, front & rear urethane swaybar bushings, Custom fiberglass sub box, Custom red led a/c control unit, perrin lightweight crank pulley, Black wrinkle finish powdercoated intake manifold w/ clear hoses , 02' outback heated/power black leather seats Soon to come:Fiberglass hood, upholster ALL suede to black leather Past subies: 92' Pearl White/black top LS-L-SOLD 96' Legacy Outback-TOTALED 99' Legacy Outback Limited 30th anniversary edition-TOTALED 98' Forester L -Totaled Other toys: 99' Forester S -WRX brake upgrade, soon an 04 wrx motor swap 06' B9 Tribeca-Stock 1982' Yamaha xj650 Maxim Mods: work in progress |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
Sounds like you have a dead battery.
Also, you should disconnect the negative terminal (or both) whenever you start tearing into things.
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
inspect all of those idlers to be sure it wasn't one of those that seized and burned up the belt... Otherwise my guess is a seized water pump... which made it a good decision to remove the radiator after all
Tom |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
the batt is all disconnected - all the idlers [smooth, geared, water pump, and tensioner] all turn smoothly
but i have a timing kit which came with all new parts, i have a rebuilt water pump too so im going to replace all that as well... my concern is the right side timing cover, it got ate in the party that happened in there, finding one in good shape appears to be harder than popping down to the local parts store i also dont really want to remove the cam pulley things are amazingly clean in there, after i blew out all the dust and debris from the belt, that part of the engine is spic and span, no oil, no rust, nothing |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
how many miles on the car? if Pushing 150K i would do the sprockets and roller kit?
Just a thought Keith |
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Re: crank pulley starter trick ?
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you mean the geared and smooth idlers that the timing belt rides on? |
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