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Old 08-27-2007, 04:24 PM
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Decorum and Civility

I think, in this network, we have just experienced the kind of conflict, that unfortunately, afflicts too many of our organizations today. An internet forum without the intimidating physical presence of others actually encourages the kind of egoistic posturing and confrontation that we have just seen and which can destroy organizations. I think the monitors are absolutely correct to take firm punitive and pre-emptive action when individuals demonstrate such destructive behaviors.

I realize that I also have been guilty of such behavior, which is why I now avoid the Political forum I certainly owe an apology to Lee for being an arrogant a$$hole in certain net conversations on that forum.

I think members participate in forums for two very very different reasons. One is constructive and involves seeking and enjoying the camaradie of those with similar passions and interests. The other reason is more selfish and involves the personal gratification of creating and exercising a persona which offsets feelings of individual inadequacy and fulfills fantasies of personal empowerment. At it's worst, this behavior begins to resemble the mating-season dominance posturing of various male mammals and birds. The problem of the latter motivation is that it isn't based on the good of the forum as a whole, but on the jollies of individual members. Ultimately, the good of the forum may require the elimination of those members who addiction to that second motivation spurs self-indulgent and group-destructive behavior. I think we can all benefit from periodic self reflection concerning whether we are falling into that rutting rut.

I applaud their recent decisions.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:50 PM
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I have & will support, or defend the mods on most any board to which I subscribe though.

Thanks for making me see my error subeman90.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:49 PM
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It is also interesting when looking at a post count. Many forums or sites don't have a post count, because they feel that it stimulates compatition and sometimes negative behavior. If members look at the kinds of post that they have, they can evaluate whether they are for the good of the order, just to gain more posts, or to snipe or bait others on the site. We hope that members are here and want to help others, but I know that others are not. That is their right to post as long as they do not start behavior that is negative or disruptive to the community as a whole. (insert the horse Icon here)
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:50 PM
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I think, in this network, we have just experienced the kind of conflict, that unfortunately, afflicts too many of our organizations today. An internet forum without the intimidating physical presence of others actually encourages the kind of egoistic posturing and confrontation that we have just seen and which can destroy organizations. I think the monitors are absolutely correct to take firm punitive and pre-emptive action when individuals demonstrate such destructive behaviors.

I realize that I also have been guilty of such behavior, which is why I now avoid the Political forum I certainly owe an apology to Lee for being an arrogant a$$hole in certain net conversations on that forum.

I think members participate in forums for two very very different reasons. One is constructive and involves seeking and enjoying the camaradie of those with similar passions and interests. The other reason is more selfish and involves the personal gratification of creating and exercising a persona which offsets feelings of individual inadequacy and fulfills fantasies of personal empowerment. At it's worst, this behavior begins to resemble the mating-season dominance posturing of various male mammals and birds. The problem of the latter motivation is that it isn't based on the good of the forum as a whole, but on the jollies of individual members. Ultimately, the good of the forum may require the elimination of those members who addiction to that second motivation spurs self-indulgent and group-destructive behavior. I think we can all benefit from periodic self reflection concerning whether we are falling into that rutting rut.

I applaud their recent decisions.
That's a pretty deep and insightful analysis Shotgun.

It is nice to see that you guys are aware that the mods' systems and sanctions are there for the good of the general membership, and keeping things intact.

From a Mod's perspective, you guys are worth the effort. We have all made many good friends here over the years. We can work to keep it that way.

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Old 08-27-2007, 05:53 PM
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:06 PM
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It's big for an icon, but I like it!!

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Old 08-27-2007, 06:10 PM
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Dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in business we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:

1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Say things like, "This is the way we have always ridden this horse."
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9. Comparing the state of dead horses in todays environment.
10. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead."
11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat."
14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance.
15. Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead.
18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.
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I have one around here somewhere. It is about the same size as our icons, and is someone beating a dead horse. The poor horse.
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:13 PM
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Good times.

I'm a mod on our local Subaru forum, and I'm not looking forward to the first inklings of conflict that are prone to happen as numbers increase. Fortunately, most of our group is within the same county, and we show up at the more than quarterly meets, so face to face is often enough that it really controls the events forumside.

I didn't enjoy seeing the recent incidents here, especially having met the guys involved very soon into the short time I've been a part of this forum, and being under the impression that both are rather substantial in the community. It just gets me down to think that this is the result that solves their conflict.
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I was going to PM you Alan. I knew you had it around someplace because I saw it when you posted it the first time. I love it.
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i also have.....

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