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Old 03-27-2007, 06:23 PM
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does the rear wing ACTUALLY provide any benefit?

..........or is it just for style points?

no seriously.......does anyone have anything in their collection of reading material that says the wing provides benefit?(ie: downforce or improved stability above a certain speed or.......?)

what im wondering is if i should ditch it in favour of the weight loss or keep it...it DOES give about 20lbs of downforce at the rear !! LMAO!!

when built, i wont be seeing speeds over 130 mph, and if i do its only for a few seconds(unless i rally in quebec where they seem to use gravel roads 4 lanes wide!!)

to paraphrase the clash..........should it stay or should it go now?!?

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:06 PM
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I have driven SVXs with and without the spoiler. I have noticed a difference on the paved road at speeds greater than 100 mph. The SVX without seem to he lighter in the rear than the ones that have the spoiler. There has been discussion on how to find out how much downforce they provide, but it is fact that they are functional. Good luck on the project.
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:36 PM
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I always liked that it blocked the center of the headlight beam of the vehicle behind me. Beyond that, it was a PITA to wax under...
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:56 PM
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The first major wax I do on the car, I take it off so I can wax easier. I find the same thing about the lights behind me.
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:14 AM
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I recall someone talking about the extra gap space between the rear deck and rear quarter it rests on, and saying there were marks as if the two had met.
Push down on your trunk lid and see how much force is required to close the gap.
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:03 PM
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I would be there is little to no downforce from that wing. It's not raked like a spoiler, and I bet it's too close to the trunk lid to really have good enough flow to act as in inverted airfoil.

I'll bet the most it does is help reduce drag by spoiling the air off the back of the car (and thus helps freeway fuel mileage a little).

Take a look at the massive STi spoiler or the Spec-C wing (or actual race cars for that matter)... that's what a wing needs to look like for it to be downforce functional, and even then you need to be hauling the mail for it to really make a difference.
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:11 PM
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to paraphrase the clash..........should it stay or should it go now?!?
Lose it! It is only good for rice points.
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:19 PM
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LMAO....lord knows i could never be accused of bein a ricer!!


thats what i'm leaning towards too......i save high-mounted pendulum type(all the way to the rear) weight with no real tangible loss in stability....
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:36 PM
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Dude ... Really? I think it is sweet! I wouldn't dream of taking it off my car, adds alot it seems like, the ones without it just don't seem near as nice looking. But obviously this is all a matter of opinion.
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:47 PM
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Color makes a difference. Some of the colors look better without the spoiler than other colors do. Personal preference is also a big issue.
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wing power

everyone knows wings & stickers add tons of horsepower. look at mine, thats good for about 80+.
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I'll bet the most it does is help reduce drag by spoiling the air off the back of the car (and thus helps freeway fuel mileage a little).
The trunk lid is obviously designed for this purpose. The wingy thingy will have been "engineered" by the sales department.
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Anyone weighed one? I remember when installing one on my wife's svx that it was very light - maybe a few pounds at the most.
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I have one laying around someplace. I might weigh it for jollies.
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nd I bet it's too close to the trunk lid to really have good enough flow to act as in inverted airfoil.
From what I can tell, the factory spoiler is actually directly in the airstream coming from the sides of the rear windshield and over the car. If you ever drive with some fresh snow on the car, look at the wind pattern it maps out..youll see two vorticies at even 1/3 points across the leading edge of the spoiler (Most spoiler chips mark this as well) Keep in mind the car's areodnamics were designed without a spoiler.
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ake a look at the massive STi spoiler or the Spec-C wing (or actual race cars for that matter)... that's what a wing needs to look like for it to be downforce functional
Actually, the sti spoiler creats 12 pounds of LIFT after 90 mph
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The trunk lid is obviously designed for this purpose. The wingy thingy will have been "engineered" by the sales department.
Ditto. This is the simplified version of what I was thinking. My vote: Give yourself a provisional period of winglessness. Handy hint of the day...the hols for the spoiler are outside the trunk jamb's weather stripping...so removing the spoiler will NOT result in trunk leaks..though you will want to do something about the holes if you decide to chuck the wing for good
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