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An Open Letter to Cindy Sheehan
A long, yet interesting read... Thoughts?
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These people hate us for who we are, not what we have done. We did not bring this on ourselves, as many would have us believe, by our policies and actions abroad. We brought this on ourselves in 1775 when the Founding Fathers embarked on a course of freedom, tolerance, and liberal democratic and social ideals. |
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Noir, instead of name calling home about some foundations for your opinion. I totally agree with him. She has become the Hanoi Jane of our generation. No one stuck a gun to her son's head and made him enlist. I served the U.S. Air Force as a reservist and was activated after 9/11. I didn't cry and demand to be released. My wife didn't write letters to congress. Granted I didn't die (obviously) but the premise is the same. You sign, you serve. She should get a grip. She is tarnishing her son's legacy. He is no longer a gallant American who died in the cause. Now he's Islamic Cidy's kid. What a shame.
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I think she just wants to be on the news. Which is the same motive behind half the anti-war idiots' actions. They don't think about the consequences of their actions because they don't really care about the cause, they just want to have an opinion (no matter what that opinion may be) and they just want to be heard.
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Since Mr.Smith apparently considers responsibility to be important.
Where was the Bush administration's sense of responsibility to provide accurate information about WMD in Iraq to Congress and to the nation? Where was CIA director George Tenant's sense of responsibility to provide accurate information to congress about WMD? Responsibility starts at the top. And Ms. Sheehan has every right to protest her sons death. Quote:
This young man's efforts are no longer gallant because his mother is protesting the war? Your pro-war rhetoric is pathetic Thankfully, the vast majority of Americans do not support Bush's handling of the war in Iraq. Last edited by SVXtra; 09-12-2005 at 04:12 PM. |
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SVXtra, what branch did you serve in? As for her, becoming a face of disent for the enemy only increases the resistance, not end it. No one made her son enlist. He did it of his free will. Since I was actually in the military, all I can say is most of the people I talk to are in good spirits and still believe in the war. Maybe you should go visit the rape rooms in Bagdad and meet some of the 12 year old victims. You are pathetic. Since it's the people in the military who actually go out and die, I'll take their opinion over sideline watchers. Which includes most of the media, so that's what you hear about all the time. Do I think somethings have gone wrong? Absolutley. But I'm not in charge of nationaly policy, and as far as I know, neither are you. The greatest American General just about of all time, Robert E. Lee, said he never knew it was so easy to be a General by reading the columns about the war. Since they had all the answers he was going to go be an editor, and they can lead the troops.
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I served in the Army as a pilot of a UH-1D Medivac helicopter with the 101st out of Camp Eagle in Phu-Bai and Firebase Howard mostly. I was wounded twice in combat while attempting to dust-off wounded soldiers from the battlefields near Hue and Pleiku. I will not address your personal attack against me because I have come to expect them from those who support the war. Last edited by SVXtra; 09-13-2005 at 02:50 PM. |
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Calm down here guys. We all have our right to opinions here. Regardless of eack of our beliefs, none are better than anothers. This war, as any, will generate heated debate. Keep it on the up-and-up and the thread stays open.
Dan, that was pretty close to an attack on SVXtra and I will ask you to remember the rules of the site and avoid them from now on. Thanks, Todd
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Soldiers are pawns. People tend to gloss over that concept, but that's how it works. It's not really possible to win a game of chess without losing a few pawns. The better your opponent, the more you lose. If you don't make any aggressive moves, your opponent will clear the board of your pieces. If you don't want to be a pawn, don't sign up for it. Mothers, if you don't want your children to be pawns, ask them not to be. (If they decide to join up anyway, blame yourself for being a lousy mother.) Like chess, war doesn't afford you the luxury of hindsight. I'm willing to admit that I'm no Bobby Fischer. I think I'll just stand back and watch.
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Here's some trivia that will keep you anti-war whiners busy for a long time: 1) Name one war that went as planned. 2) Name one war that we were properly prepared for. 3) Name one war that no one protested. 4) Name one popular wartime president. Good luck. |
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2. WWII and WWI (Remember Pearl Harbor) 3. The Civil War or the War of 1812 4. FDR (He was elected during the war) As for Mr. Smith: He seems to forget that attacking another country, which had nothing to do with us, has nothing to do defending our rights and freedoms. He failed to attend "Constitution 101"; Article II Clause 8: Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Defense does not equal attack another country, sorry Mr. Smith.
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Willingly Served?
Shadow248 you obviously have a lot to learn.
I was drafted out of college in my junior year. I took another year in order to go to flight school on September 5 1968 at Fort Hollibert in Baltimore. Because, I was told I did well enough on my entrance exam to go to OCS. I choose instead to go to flight school at Fort Hood Texas to become a warrant officer. When I was told I would receive a guarantee to fly medivac's upon my graduation. Apparently,a simple act of the human conscience is hard for some to understand.You see Shadow248 I would rather save lives than take lives. You know in my long life it never ceases to amaze me that if a person is antiwar there patriotism is called into question. I have seen this over and over from Vietnam to Iraq. Last edited by SVXtra; 09-12-2005 at 09:10 PM. |
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So much griping towards the president...
If people can't stand it and I mean all of the United States then the people griping should get off their political bung holes and start campaigning...Next election I want to see a ton of people running...all colors, creeds and sexes. I'm so tired of people sitting silently in the corner whispering "if I was president..." well they should stand up and prove what they can do instead of waiting and then running their pie holes. Where would this country be if we never defended ourselves against the "evil"? Someone breaks into your house and hurts your wife/husband/children...what is the first thing you would do? USA is our home and we got people trying to come in and screw with our families all the time. Are we to stand by and let people hurt us? Why does it always take a tragedy like 9/11 or hurrican Katrina to bring us close? and why does the feeling only last for a short time? Can you remember the exact emotion you felt when the planes ripped through the towers? I can. I don't let myself forget. My father was burried when I was 3. He served his time in the military, earned a purple heart, and even though I never knew him I still visit his grave for 1)because he is my father and 2)to thank him and the rest of the soldiers and their kin for all the freedom I have today. I commend Brantley Smith for having the courage to stand up for his beliefs even though a great % of the country disagrees. Kudos to all who stand up for what they believe in..that is what this country is based on right?!!! This is my opinion.
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You failed to properly read the questions...
1. WWII. Remember D-Day 1944? I asked for one war that went as planned. You picked the second most poorly executed war in our history (first would of course be Vietnam). Good choice. There was little planning if any to begin with, and both the major offensives in the war were large scale failures. Yup, just as planned. 2. WWII and WWI (Remember Pearl Harbor) I asked for a war that we were properly prepared for. It was niether our desire or intent to enter WWII until Japan brought it to us. We had all our resources at work supplying the British...so much so, that we had to recall shipments of weapons that were meant for them. We were unable to enter WWII at full strength (as we did both Iraq wars) because we spent so much energy helping others who were already involved. 3. The Civil War or the War of 1812 HA! Um...are you forgetting the ENTIRE NORTHERN US!?!?! 4. FDR (He was elected during the war) FDR was elected BEFORE the US entered the war. He was elected ON THE PREMISE that he would keep us out of war. After he was elected, we went to war. It doesn't take a genius to guess how popular this made him. Sure he's looked upon with a favorable light these days, but he was just as hated as Bush in his time. Quote:
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