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Old 09-30-2012, 03:14 PM
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Mid Engine SVX concept.

Have been considering the 12 cyclinder engines and were they should go, have also mentioned my search for a different car so I have come a full circle back to the SVX type car that I love. I spoke to Bazza about this idea at the end of last week so here it is.

I have worked out that you can fit the engine and gearbox behind the drivers seat. The issue will be as to how to mount the motor into the frame. For that I think I will take part of a front cut and relocate it to the back. Not sure yet but will work it out over time if I consider doing this project. This also means that if I get my hands on the 12 cyclinder they have a good home and its a Subaru.

So when I had a chance I started to look around at what others had done. I was dumb founded to find that this years Pike Peak winner Rhyns Millen winner car was just that a mid engine build. What a car, also I found that others had done it as well. So why not a SVX mid engine, it would be the ulimate sports car, a fitting evolation for a SVX.

So what do you think?????????


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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ys-millen.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...sis-coupe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDmCC6hsMZE
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:05 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Looking at a Testarossa engine to stay boxer?
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

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Have been considering the 12 cyclinder engines and were they should go, have also mentioned my search for a different car so I have come a full circle back to the SVX type car that I love. I spoke to Bazza about this idea at the end of last week so here it is.

I have worked out that you can fit the engine and gearbox behind the drivers seat. The issue will be as to how to mount the motor into the frame. For that I think I will take part of a front cut and relocate it to the back. Not sure yet but will work it out over time if I consider doing this project. This also means that if I get my hands on the 12 cyclinder they have a good home and its a Subaru.

So when I had a chance I started to look around at what others had done. I was dumb founded to find that this years Pike Peak winner Rhyns Millen winner car was just that a mid engine build. What a car, also I found that others had done it as well. So why not a SVX mid engine, it would be the ulimate sports car, a fitting evolation for a SVX.

So what do you think?????????


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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ys-millen.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...sis-coupe.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDmCC6hsMZE
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2380691
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:19 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Tony, i think the car that won pykes had engine up the front. Was a v6 with big turbo, videos are certainly not v8 sounding.


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Old 09-30-2012, 06:52 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

You are right, sorry about that,
and it was 2WD was it front or rear?
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:43 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Here is a mid engined Soob coupe with a super charged eg33 for inspiration...
http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=134714
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:53 PM
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If anyone could do it, it would be you, Tony.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:11 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

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Here is a mid engined Soob coupe with a super charged eg33 for inspiration...
http://ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=134714
Same car posted 2 above yours.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:12 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

This post is amazing for a few reasons...
First because the legendary F1 V-12 sill exists, intact
Second because its actually for sale, not tucked away in a factory warehouse
Lastly because you are seriously considering such an audacious task as putting it in an SVX.

Irony, of ironies being that the two are related by more than the engine architecture. The fact that they were both financial failures for Subaru binds them.

If you decide to go ahead with your plan, i wish you smooth sailing. Take LOTS of pictures!

As for how to mount it? Could you use a front subframe from another SVX? My guess is the car would require "backhalving". IE a tube frame to support the rear half of the car, and powertrain. On the plus side, you could move the rear hubs inward to gain clearance for the larger tires that will be required for traction.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:05 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

Don't know if any of you guys saw this, factory five are working on a rear engine Subaru Kit car. They are using the parts from a WRX or Imprezza, there are a couple of videos as well on there web site and on you tube. The car is called 818 being the target all up weight of 818 Kg. They argue that at that number its going to be a very fast car.

Tony

http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/project-818/

and they have a forum here,
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/content.php?
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1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:04 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

I say put a second FWD EG33 setup in the rear driving the rear wheels, and keep one in the front driving the front wheels....
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:50 AM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

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This post is amazing for a few reasons...
First because the legendary F1 V-12 sill exists, intact
Second because its actually for sale, not tucked away in a factory warehouse
Lastly because you are seriously considering such an audacious task as putting it in an SVX.

Irony, of ironies being that the two are related by more than the engine architecture. The fact that they were both financial failures for Subaru binds them.

If you decide to go ahead with your plan, i wish you smooth sailing. Take LOTS of pictures!

As for how to mount it? Could you use a front subframe from another SVX? My guess is the car would require "backhalving". IE a tube frame to support the rear half of the car, and powertrain. On the plus side, you could move the rear hubs inward to gain clearance for the larger tires that will be required for traction.

+1 ^^^^^


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Old 10-02-2012, 12:46 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

I think you guys and Harvey are thinking the same. He suddested on the weekend the same idea except turn the back engine around and connect the tail shafts.

Pretty wild.
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1992 - SVX Pearl with black roof race car roll cauge etc ready to race. Ex Tasman Targa car.
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1995 - SVX Rally car, ex Matts car. Now to be used on track.
1992 - SVX red & Black being converted to Mid Engine.
1995 - SVX Red 143,000 bit rough.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:58 PM
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Re: Mid Engine SVX concept.

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I think you guys and Harvey are thinking the same. He suddested on the weekend the same idea except turn the back engine around and connect the tail shafts.

Pretty wild.
Tony
Mind = blown

How would you sync up the transmissions though?
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