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Old 12-17-2007, 12:04 PM
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Alright guys, I was just gonna get a new tranny but want to check with you all first.

My 4.11 5 Speed is starting to make a grinding/growning noise when I let off the gas. Not sure what could be causing it
Any ideas? Hard to tell if it is coming from the diff or the gearbox, but I have to guess, gearbox.
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:24 PM
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Alright guys, I was just gonna get a new tranny but want to check with you all first.

My 4.11 5 Speed is starting to make a grinding/growning noise when I let off the gas. Not sure what could be causing it
Any ideas? Hard to tell if it is coming from the diff or the gearbox, but I have to guess, gearbox.
New tranny... They aren't all that hard to find now either so it'd just save you time to get a new one and throw it in

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Old 12-17-2007, 12:30 PM
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I was thinking of swapping one in an rebuilding this one.... Is it possible to rebuild it with RA gears? any good sources? do you think it is worth the while?
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:19 PM
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Are you sure that it is coming from the tranny. When I put in my tranny it was making grinding noises when I let off the gas. Turned out that when down shifting the axle was rubbing against the shifter bracket. I had to do some spacing to fix it but got it all to work.
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:27 PM
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not sure how that is possible, but I can look... do you mean the driveshaft? My DS should be clear all around.
I just found a listing on nasioc where a guy is selling this same trans with the same issue
Funny thing is, he is only in the next county over
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:45 PM
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just realized something... gotta PM TOM for some info
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In progess: track down mystery noise <-identified, paint the new dash, get better pic
Spring plans: Replace Trans - Integrate ECU with the carputer - Suspension - Go back to STI Filter - Paint? Maybe not - Next Oil change: Purolator L30165

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Old 12-17-2007, 02:52 PM
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Somewhat unrelated, but my Brat was doing something similar, I was ready to drop the trans when I bumped one of the exhaust heat shields and realized it was completely loose and just sitting on top of the pipe...
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Old 12-17-2007, 02:57 PM
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are you sure it doesn't do it on accel too? You should hear the trans in my wagon:roll eyes:

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Old 12-17-2007, 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys

Tom, the info you gave me in PM is what I was afraid of. having never repaired one of these inside, is it difficult? I do not have a press, but can get one and is there a good source on info to do the rebuild? Since I might want to do it while I have it apart. Also any idea on whether or not RA gears can go in? I have conflicting info on it, but neither really tell why
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In progess: track down mystery noise <-identified, paint the new dash, get better pic
Spring plans: Replace Trans - Integrate ECU with the carputer - Suspension - Go back to STI Filter - Paint? Maybe not - Next Oil change: Purolator L30165

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Old 12-17-2007, 06:16 PM
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What's the 4.11 5spd out of? What are "RA gears"?
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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What's the 4.11 5spd out of? What are "RA gears"?
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It was out of a legacy, but you can get em out of prezas too...
RA gears most importantly to me, come with great big TEETH
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In progess: track down mystery noise <-identified, paint the new dash, get better pic
Spring plans: Replace Trans - Integrate ECU with the carputer - Suspension - Go back to STI Filter - Paint? Maybe not - Next Oil change: Purolator L30165

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Old 12-17-2007, 06:27 PM
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Screw the R/A gears in a push box. I am pretty sure the clearances are a bit tough to surpass... I would recomend pressing your own gears and/or bearings either. I would suggest opening her up (this is a good way to get an understanding of how they work) and looking by feel and sound for some dead bearings. Also check appropriate gear wear.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:19 AM
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I'd definitely check out the rear diff first...it's easier to replace, and if the tolerances weren't set right when it was converted, it is a very likely component for noise on decell....
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:44 AM
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I'd definitely check out the rear diff first...it's easier to replace, and if the tolerances weren't set right when it was converted, it is a very likely component for noise on decell....
You know, when we had it on the lift I thought the rear wheels felt a little harder to turn than the front. Was hoping it was my imagination, I would rather pull the trans than the rear diff

Really, it bothered me enough I was gonna do it anyway when I pulled the trans. Could a bearing have gone bad?
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In progess: track down mystery noise <-identified, paint the new dash, get better pic
Spring plans: Replace Trans - Integrate ECU with the carputer - Suspension - Go back to STI Filter - Paint? Maybe not - Next Oil change: Purolator L30165

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Old 12-18-2007, 07:50 AM
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if you don't pattern the rear you don't know what your backlash and pinion depth are. If they are out of whack it will burn up your rear diff gears and bearings.

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