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Old 04-12-2008, 03:37 PM
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The company I work for makes automated phone systems. The type of systems where you call up, select from menus, say or dial your account number etc and if you are really lucky you will eventually get placed in a queue to speak to someone in an indian call centre.
I worked for a call center (momentarily) and all these systems being automated? are still ran through people. (at least where I worked) They called it CPC (Click per call) and this company got paid by the amount of directs or re-directs, thus paying you (the director). You would have to listen to utterances and a menu would come up on the computer with options for you to select from. Very fast paced job but all this time I thought it was 100% computer controlled when actually humans play a large role in the errors that can be made.

We did automation for some pizza places, satellite/cable place and a few other phone company customer service. Headphones on clicking on a computer 8 hours a day... not fun.

Anyways, I'm still wondering how they would have accomplished decent voice recognition on these systems at the time, considering we still seem to have issues with it in the modern day. Could have been another determining factor as to why it never did materialize .
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:09 PM
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I worked for a call center (momentarily) and all these systems being automated? are still ran through people. (at least where I worked) They called it CPC (Click per call) and this company got paid by the amount of directs or re-directs, thus paying you (the director). You would have to listen to utterances and a menu would come up on the computer with options for you to select from. Very fast paced job but all this time I thought it was 100% computer controlled when actually humans play a large role in the errors that can be made.

We did automation for some pizza places, satellite/cable place and a few other phone company customer service. Headphones on clicking on a computer 8 hours a day... not fun.

Anyways, I'm still wondering how they would have accomplished decent voice recognition on these systems at the time, considering we still seem to have issues with it in the modern day. Could have been another determining factor as to why it never did materialize .
Wow. I've never heard of that before. Our systems are completely automated. We use a variety of different ASR (automatic speech recognition) and TTS (text to speech) engines, depending on what the customer wants. The IBM one is by far the best.

It's true what you say. Good speech rec would have been a big problem for Subaru back in the late 80's. Maybe in the prototype they used your system: A guy hiding in the trunk pressing buttons when people gave voice commands.
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And here I was just admiring the trick 2-way mirror setup they had at the Tokyo show in 89. The one where they had the mechanicals suspended above the car, making a ghost image. Tres Disneyland!
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:04 AM
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It would have bankrupted Subaru

It would not be the touch screen, even if it was an LCD or the Operating System at the time which would be expensive. Instead, it would be the cost of hire software developers to design a voice recognition for US/UK/AU/NZ English, German, Spanish and Japanese just to name the commercially dominating languages at the time. You also have to take into account all the voice tracks stored on it which would have to be in close to lossless since the MIDI, MOD and other audio compression at the time can't play voice tracks clearly. So quite a bit more is needed to create hardware with enough flash memory to store all that since hardrives and optical discs with sensitive data back then would have been unreadable if shaken while the car was riding on a bumpy surface.

With all that Subaru would have had to push up the the SVX to Lamborghini or Bentley pricing. It also would have been slow by most people's standards in processing voice to commands and become a major drain on the battery. So the point of it was to merely attract more people to it while at the autoshow or reading a magazine.

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Old 04-14-2008, 03:33 PM
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Voice tracks? I'm sure it would have just been text to speech translation (which has been around since at least the early 80s). As far as the different languages it's just a matter of switching the language over and tweaking the program to say things proper (which would still have cost money and time) but nothing too far fetched I would think. The memory is the biggest issue I really see with the system.

It would probably had only been installed on the JDM version anyways.... and the rest would have just what they have now. I can't really give an educated or fair guess on how much it would have cost for the navigation unit but I seriously don't think it would have increased the price above $4k extra. (which of course would have probably been a coffin move for Subaru... unless they just made it an option across the board). I wouldn't think a computer system is needed to attract people to the car.... with windows like that
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oh well, there goes my ideas on the prototype units...

Looks like (after about 16 years) a 3rd party has finally decided to pick up where Subaru left off ;-).

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...sh/AVIC-F900BT

or watch the video at the bottom of the page (kinda eh... but you get the idea)
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...AVICF90&tp=144

A'bit pricey for me blood... (for the richer, but it seems pretty (ok, really really) nice, voice controlled and no worries about a Map DVD like the Avic D2/D3 which seems to be a pain in the ass. Car, call Mom! (ring ring ring) =)

Once we get autopilot, it's game over!

I'm disappointed that the 3D holographic visuals isn't for real, though. Shame. I do ask much don't I?
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Looks like (after about 16 years) a 3rd party has finally decided to pick up where Subaru left off ;-).

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...sh/AVIC-F900BT

or watch the video at the bottom of the page (kinda eh... but you get the idea)
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...AVICF90&tp=144

A'bit pricey for me blood... (for the richer, but it seems pretty (ok, really really) nice, voice controlled and no worries about a Map DVD like the Avic D2/D3 which seems to be a pain in the ass. Car, call Mom! (ring ring ring) =)

Once we get autopilot, it's game over!

I'm disappointed that the 3D holographic visuals isn't for real, though. Shame. I do ask much don't I?
And you don't what to pay much for it either.
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