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Old 02-06-2009, 10:16 AM
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I realise you would not have known him, but I am sorry to hear that story of how your Dad was killed.

You and your brother ride safe. Your Mom would not appreciate any more collisions hurting her family.

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Thanks Joe. Yeah Jay my mom absolutely hates them too, so we just dont tell her about riding. When I crashed my IT490 in high school, I ended up in the hospital for a bit and she went through the roof, crying and the whole bit. I felt really really bad for her after she explained what she went thru back then. Now when I ride, I ride like an old lady . And if I DO ever run from the cops, it will be after jumping from the bike lol
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Mine is my primary mode of transport year round.

I will ride down to 25 dry, and 35 wet.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:35 PM
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I always ride like an old lady. My favorite speed on the bike is around 40mph. Then again, when it's cold, 40mph feels very fast.
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:14 PM
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Re: How to pull over a motorcyclist

I was talways told to be responsibal for the consequences of my actions. From this video, I see that going in both directions.

If the MC rider did something bad enough, he could deserve to have deadly force used against him and he deserves the hit.

At the same time the LEO has to be willing to take the responsability for using deadly force if the guy was running from a speeding ticket.
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Thats pretty scary stuff there. I only have my learners MC lience. I only want to get it cause i would want to eventually own a classic motorbike etc just to take out on nice weekends etc. I think its kinda bit dangous driving to work etc on especially round here with some idoit car drivers.
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I'm going to be the callous one here and say the cop did not hit the biker. He did position himself in front of the bike as it was moving, however, he also did stop a nano-moment before the impact and the biker did not do much to evade the car that had been coming directly at him for a good +100ft.

My initial reaction was shock, but after watching it a few times, I have no sympathy at all especially considering he does not appear to be injured.
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Re: How to pull over a motorcyclist

"Since he did not appear to be injured"? Ok, so a cop is coming after me, and I start shooting at him. Unfortuantly I've been drinking, and miss him entirely. They're ok with that since I didn't hurt the officer, right? No harm, no foul?
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"Since he did not appear to be injured"? Ok, so a cop is coming after me, and I start shooting at him. Unfortuantly I've been drinking, and miss him entirely. They're ok with that since I didn't hurt the officer, right? No harm, no foul?
+1 that cop should be fired and rung up on wreckless endangerment. Granted you may shed some of your rights when running from police, you do not shed your right to a fair trial, which if the cop hit him faster, might not have been available.

As a rider, I do not ride like a total idiot, my bike can be heard from 3-4 blocks away, yet some idiots still don't seem to realise you are there when they change lanes in front of you, or INTO you

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+1 that cop should be fired and rung up on wreckless endangerment. Granted you may shed some of your rights when running from police, you do not shed your right to a fair trial, which if the cop hit him faster, might not have been available.

As a rider, I do not ride like a total idiot, my bike can be heard from 3-4 blocks away, yet some idiots still don't seem to realise you are there when they change lanes in front of you, or INTO you

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Tom, I hear this all the time (pun intended).
I have a Harley and its not loud, but you just gave me a great idea to help protect myself.
I've put Hella Supertones on all my cars, why not my bike?
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"Since he did not appear to be injured"? Ok, so a cop is coming after me, and I start shooting at him. Unfortuantly I've been drinking, and miss him entirely. They're ok with that since I didn't hurt the officer, right? No harm, no foul?
I'm saying, according to law, the cop did not technically "hit" the biker. He crashed mostly as a result of his own lackadaisical riding. He had more than enough time to get out of the way and it is fairly well known cops will try to block those who flee with their vehicles.

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I'm not saying I think he deserved it, or that I condone stopping cars in front of bikes, I just think this guy is an idiot and I do not think the cop will get any kind of consequence.
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Tom, I hear this all the time (pun intended).
I have a Harley and its not loud, but you just gave me a great idea to help protect myself.
I've put Hella Supertones on all my cars, why not my bike?
Because sometimes a horn is too late. I would rather be a constant reminder

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i'm sure a flame war will ensue, but it really doesn't matter what he did when he decided to run he put innocent people's lives at risk, as well as the lives of the officers. i feel no pity for him what so ever. you do the crime you do the time. if your gonna run from the police they are going to try to stop you. i'm not saying this wasn't a little over kill, i'm sure he didn't expect them to react that way, but you don't expect the cops to just let you speed away.
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i'm sure a flame war will ensue, but it really doesn't matter what he did when he decided to run he put innocent people's lives at risk, as well as the lives of the officers. i feel no pity for him what so ever. you do the crime you do the time. if your gonna run from the police they are going to try to stop you. i'm not saying this wasn't a little over kill, i'm sure he didn't expect them to react that way, but you don't expect the cops to just let you speed away.
READ: right to a fair trial judged by a jury of your peers.

Not the front end of a police car

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READ: right to a fair trial judged by a jury of your peers.

Not the front end of a police car

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ok, read the rules of the road, red and blue mean pull over, or they will attempt to pull you over using any means neccisary, you may get away if you run, but you may get hurt if you do. besides innocent people don't run.
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ok, read the rules of the road, red and blue mean pull over, or they will attempt to pull you over using any means neccisary, you may get away if you run, but you may get hurt if you do. besides innocent people don't run.
And they also have been known to call off chases when the threat to life has been too great to warrant further endangerment to the public..... including the suspect (innocent until proven guilty). Barring a murder warrant, deadly force is not used in pursuits unless the lives of officers are in imminent danger. The officer knew the outcome of his decision before he pulled directly in the path of the motorcyclist, its just lucky the guy had dumb luck and was alright. Wish we knew what he did though....
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